I just ran a few tests. The Krynn, Drath, Terrans, Thalan. None of them researched above Enhanced logistics if at all. I'm sorry but the AIP8 logistics fix needs to be in there. How about a compromise. No messing around with ID/Category just AIValue -10 for basic and Enhanced. Those are cheap techs and it shouldn't take the AI to much time to grind through them. After that, it's on it's own.
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[quote who="Gaunathor" reply="408" id="3506708"] I think we could leave the AIValues as they are, but remove the trick to force AIP 8 to research logistics. AIP 8 will still get those techs, just not as quickly as AIP 11. As long as they get some logistics for the first war, that should be okay. [/quote] I've seen some different results. e.g. Terrans, Drengin, and especially the Krynn not picking up any logistics throughout an entire game and it seals their fate before a
HEre's a version for the updated Yor on AIP8. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0w-HWDGP00gNXdoWTVseGVBazA/view?usp=sharing
Ohhhhkey... I can see how you guys prefer AIP8 controlling Yor worlds. Geez... Anyway I got them back in business on AIP8. They get all their +pop, eco, industry, research and they do their planets better. Terrifying. I'll see if I can get the Krynn running on AIP11. Shouldn't take long.
I've placed the Yor back on AIP8. I'll test them and do some work. I think the Krynn are the best choice to change to AIP11 for two reasons. One. Their tree is very similar to the Arcean, Altarian and Torian techtree. All AIP11 species that do well enough so it will save me a quite a bit of work. Two. BIOLOGY and the Krynn are perfect for this. Large terraformed planets pushing out HUGE amounts of influence. AIP11's weakness in morale handling won't be as bad for the K
Morning. I've seen the Yor do very, very well, it all depends on how they start the game. AIP11's love for biological tech can win them the day. But, considering how the Yor should be played I can see AIP8 doing better and now that we know how to tame AIP8 it shouldn't be that difficult. But I do feel at least one race should be AIP11 just to balance things out. Maybe the Iconians? I don't think it'll make a very big difference in how they perform and I had them on