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GalCiv 2 Ultimate Edition Community Update

GalCiv 2 Ultimate Edition Community Update

is now on GOG and Steam! :)

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/x2y0vtszretrook/AADTKT6lhp0Qhns8B7LkfJvaa?lst=

Project origins

There was some discussion on the Steam forums as to how to get an update to GalCiv 2 out there.

Draginol popped in and suggested that an update incorporating the expertise of the fanbase would be the best way forward.  A bugfixing update would soon be on the way.

I sent a message to the other tech tree modders, and luckily secured the assistance of Gaunathor, and later MabusAltarn, as well as some dedicated members of the community who posted some valuable feedback.  They have been instrumental to the success of the community update, and I'm glad to have played a small part along the way.

 

Progress report

The community update has been released as part of a rollout of Stardock products on GOG.com and is also available as an opt-in beta on Steam!

 

Downloads and links

Issues which can't be fixed with XML manipulation.

The file archive folder, hosted by MabusAltarn.

The list of bugs which can't be fixed with XML manipulation.

The spreadsheet of data changes, hosted by MabusAltarn.

Initial discussion on Steam forums

 

Credits for community member and Stardock staff involvement

Gaunathor - Tech tree changes, descriptions and standardisation.  AI value adjustment.  Planetary improvement changes and fixes.  Keeper of the change logs, spreadsheet and file archive. :)

MarvinKosh - Typo and description changes (English.str, Techtree.xml). Additional spreadsheet analysis.

DARCA1213 - Tech descriptions.

MabusAltarn - UI changes, tech tree changes, AI value adjustment, keeper of the file archive, spreadsheet and change logs.

Maiden666 - Suggestions for improvement (technology victory bonuses).

OShee - tech descriptions.

SiliasOfBorg - tech descriptions.

Frogboy - executable code changes.

 

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Reply #1676 Top

Hi, let me ask,,,

 

on the galactical map,,  my empire control 0 % of the galaxy,,

is there a way to control more of the galaxy??

do I have to join an empire??

 

i played for years and never made it to control 1 % of the galaxy

 

you seem to be an expert on the game,,

If u have any info, please let me know, thanks..

Reply #1677 Top

Quoting DMF, reply 1674

In that sense infinity is a mathematical concept.  There is no real thing or set of things that is demonstrably infinite.

 
Yes, I've read Rudy Rucker, too.
End of DMF's quote

Yep. No denying that. Raises the question though, if there's infinities in math, do they exist? Bigger question. Is math real or merely a construct we invented? Or, is it something we stumbled upon because math is how the universe works? Big question. Tricky to answer. 

Quoting Orbital, reply 1675

hello guys and girls,, I have been playing GC2 for years on metaverse, but I never managed to get 1 % of the galaxy control...

is there a way of getting control of the galaxy?? 

thanks..

End of Orbital's quote

I think you are referring to influence. If so, use influence star bases to increase control.

That said. 1%? That's... low... very low.

Reply #1678 Top

hi,,,

no,,, I am refering to this map: 

 

http://metaverse.galciv2.com/index.aspx?g=map

 

 

copy and paste,, is the meta verse galaxy map,,, not the game map...

 

to be honest i dont even know exactly what this map is...

if u know , please let me know,,, on meta verse  click on high scores , below on galaxy map

Reply #1679 Top

@Orbital

Sorry. I don't know. I never play the metaverse.

 

Reply #1680 Top

Well if final fate of the universe will be the BigFreeze then it will keep on expanding forever, and according to the laws of thermodynamics, the cooling down will last forever, so if you would like to display these 2 timeframes in a diagram one side would approximate to infinity.

@Orbital 2000

if you want to get more control of the galactic map you'll have to contribute more score to the MV. I've taken a look at your first MV player, and you seem to play normal games, and simply submit them. This way you will never be able to compete.

What you should play is ZERO YEAR WINS - such a game only lasts 10 minutes and will net you from 100.000 to 120.000 points guaranteed (if you play the normal ZYW involving sporeing the enemy). 

There are also other forms of ZYW, my personal one involves SuperDiplomat against multiple enemies, these net much more points but require more time and alot more understanding of techtrade & also preparation.

Finally, you may want to play million-pointer games, but some of them last weeks, and you should have the basic research plan & knowledge about the Great Galactic Swindle.

Also, playing for score usually involves using Dark Avatar, since you can contact the AI any turn, and there are also alot more planets, stuff like bugged MCC & Psionic Beam.

Although I've got to say that some stuff in TOTA 2.20 may also seem exploitably, esp. TechCapital +100% for ZYW.

Both the Kzinti Empires own forums got closed down some time ago, so I can't access any guides that have been there (and there were alot, and very detailed, basically step-by-step instructions so even new players could dive right in)

But I still seem to have a few on my drive, so if you're interested I may post them. Also, the basic Spore ZYW is quite easy to find out on your own once you got the basic idea of how to win a game on April 8th (total 13 turns)

Reply #1681 Top

Maiden, I'd like to see a guide to how the game arrives at a score.  I've played games where I simply kicked alien ass all over the galaxy - and scored 75,000.  Tried winning quickly, tried various victories: no appreciable difference.

 

I usually play Immense, high difficulty, at least 5 races.  Never Metaverse.

 

Reply #1682 Top

Quoting MabusAltarn, reply 1677

Yep. No denying that. Raises the question though, if there's infinities in math, do they exist? Bigger question. Is math real or merely a construct we invented? Or, is it something we stumbled upon because math is how the universe works? Big question. Tricky to answer.
End of MabusAltarn's quote

Plato or Aristotle?  ;)

 

I think the answer was made pretty clear when it was shown that consistent yet contradictory maths can be constructed from variant axiom systems.  (Can't recall who was the prime mover in this work.)  IOW, there is no Truth in mathematics per se. 

 

The difference between mathematicians and scientists is that scientists are concerned with using mathematics to describe the real; mathematicians are not.

 

 

[Ask me what the difference is between civil and mechanical engineers.]

 

Reply #1683 Top

my first metaverse player??? u mean my caracter avatar?

 

what is ZERO year wins??  what is ZYW???  you seem to be an expert on this game,,  I have a lot to learn.

 

you mean dark avatar version??? isnt the twilight of the arnor the best one to play? the bigger too...

 

are points counted in total or average?? is there a way I could know my total points,, not average..?

 

when I playagaisnt mulitple enemies my computer stops working, and it is a AMD A* 7410,, 8 giga RAM,,

64 bits,,,, 2,2 giga hard drive speed... i dont know why it gets slow...

 

 

what is milion pointer game?

 

spore?? you mean spore ship??

 

send me the info thanks.. regarding the empire kzinti empire and the staff u told u had on the drive.

 

are you american? if you dont mind me asking..

 

 

I play most of the games on level normal or chalenging,,, and they usualy last 4 hours,, i mostly win by acenstion victory,,, some time ago was tecnological victory, but ascention victory is harder to achieve..

 

u play with the yors??   do you want to join my my empire??

 

I usualy play with the altarians or humans, and torians,,,

 

how can I acesss your info of metaverse? u got mine?

Reply #1684 Top

cool,  you have so many games here,, I can see you are a fan of GC 2.  me too...

 

you are also a member of the kinzinti empire?? cool

 

 

thanks for the info... 

SO I can have space on the galaxy map, but i need more points ,,,

at the moment I have 0 % of the galaxy map

Reply #1685 Top

hi, how do you get a victory in 0 years??  on level suicidal??

 what kind of tactic do you use?

 

dark avatar seem to be the hardest version of this game,,, i can only win on level normal, but take around 10 years on average..

Reply #1686 Top

Orbital2000, can you take this to a new thread and stop posting in every GCII thread?

 

You've asked some interesting questions that I would like to know the answers to, but this is not the right place.

 

Reply #1687 Top

Numbers are real. Groups are real. Atoms in the universe is finite. How we use numbers probably comes from us. Infinity is relative. Infinity counts forever starting at one, so if you started counting all the stars in the universe. You would not reasonably finish.

As far as topics are concerned this post is used up. 

As far as dark avatar that is the easiest of the three games.

Reply #1688 Top

i think dread lords are easy, dark avatar i hard..

Reply #1689 Top

Hey guys, I've finally got a response from Yarlen. Apparently, the delay was due to Stardock being very focused on finishing Ashes of the Singularity (which is understandable, in my opinion). So, the update for the CU will be added to the base game. Though it still might take a while.

Reply #1690 Top

up date for the CU?? what is CU??  who is yarlen??

 

lsiten,, tell them the points system in the metaverse is wrong,, they need to change,,,

 

also they need to create bigger galaxies,, and diferente ships , and bigger fleets.. and so on,,

GC 2 in general is good, but could have been made better...

 

do u have contact wit the star dock guys..??

 

what is ashes of singularity?

Reply #1691 Top

It might help if you tell them how galciv2 could be made better. Not to mention that is what galciv3 mercenaries is.

Reply #1692 Top

GC 2 could have bigger maps,,, bigger fleets and more tecnologies ..

and the point score for metaverse could be better..

 

even multiplayer mode would be cool too...

 

grafics could be better,,,

the music is perfect for a space game,,

 

starbases could be much more powerfull..... they are actualy very vulnerable..

 

plantary invasio should be made much harder,, u cant invade  a planet with just one ship..

Reply #1693 Top

hi, I know have total points of 100 000 ,,,, i am now ranked at 298...

thanks for the tactic.,, i managed to get 32 000 points in one game,, my highest score so far..

Reply #1694 Top

any one here knows how can I join other people empire??

Reply #1695 Top

hello,,   is me again  =)

 

let me ask, how do I get the dark avatar update 2.01?

 

mine is 1.92

 

thanks,,

i am now ranked 266 with around 120 thousand points..

Reply #1696 Top

I was checking Dark Avatar doesn't work.

Reply #1697 Top

doesnt work??? i was playing here a few days ago....

 

u need to  buy it and down load the game,, and play,, it works,, i think the version is called  1.82..

Reply #1698 Top

Wait it comes for free with the ultimate edition.

Reply #1699 Top

I am big fan of this game,, i played 70 + times on meta verse...

Reply #1700 Top

guys, i need help,, I managed to download the up date of the GC2  , the 2.20,,,

but i cannot play it,,, I cant find the downloaded folder and the game will only run the version 1.97,, not 2.20..

 

can any one help?? thanks