[quote who="basj" reply="1" id="3919889"] ...But, if you don't subscribe to marketing newsletters or monitor the forums, how do you expect an announcement such as Start11 v2 release be able to reach you? [/quote] The same way it does for the vast majority of apps- a notification from the app at startup. I get a popup upgrade notification whenever I open Start11 settings now, so the capability is clearly something Start11 could do. Also, if the user has purchased software, th
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I have been using Start menu since 2018. I received the first update in many months to W11 V1 today. When I went to this website to check what was updated, I find out that a major update (V2) has been available since October of last year. I would think it would have been pretty standard practice to notify existing customers of major update releases if only to spur upgrade purchases. I would also think that a user that had opted-in to beta releases would have been offered a chance to try out n
[quote who="Neil Banfield" reply="3" id="3883952"] Uninstall, reboot and then reinstall 1.43 beta. [/quote] My OP said that I ran the Start11 purge script, which I would tend to think would have accomplished the same thing as uninstalling and then some, but I have done the uninstall/reboot and now there's a slightly different problem where the keyboard Start button will alternate between the Start11 menu and the standard Windows menu, momentarily show the Start11 menu and th
I am running version 1.4.3. Yes, Windows is preview version. I also ruled out that PowerToys could be intercepting key presses by killing it completely.
The keyboard Windows Start buttons no longer open the Start11 menu. Clicking on the OS GUI Start button works as expected. I have performed a purge and reinstall, but the problem persists. I have changed all the Control settings away and back to Start11 to see if that would shake anything loose. Have tried the latest Beta version of Start11 with no results. <img src="https://cdn.stardock.us/forums/69/10/6910982/b4dedbc4-89d3-4251-9e02-790292d4c0b8.png" alt="" width="593" height="360"
[quote who="Neil Banfield" reply="3" id="3871762"] Start11 will remember the last app you launched for a given search term and boost that items search score.[/quote] It does not behave this way for me at all. I can launch a particular app 100 times for the same search and it will not favor that app in results. I suspect that UWP apps are always returned as "Best Match" by Start 11 no matter what. Windows native search does not behave this way, however. The exact same search term
This OPs post was quite a long time ago and still no answer to this. I'm not sure how Start11 determines search result order, but the Start11 "Best match" is almost never the most used or wanted result. If Start11 isn't going to use frequency of use for search result order, then users should be able to manually influence that order by starring apps or some other methodology.
[quote who="Neil Banfield" reply="1" id="3865893"] If the files physically do not exist then start11 cannot see them.[/quote] The files don't necessarily not physically exist, to use a double negative. All of the files appear in Windows Explorer and many are set to Always Keep on Device, yet none of these are found by Start11 search. Meanwhile, all OneDrive files, whether physically on device or not, are found by the Everything Search utility.
I use OneDrive files on demand for all my document storage. Windows Search returns results for my documents but Start11 does not. OneDrive folders are not available to be indexed for search, but rather results are enabled via Settings > Privacy & security > Search permissions > Cloud content Search. Is Start11 supposed to be returning search results related to cloud content (OneDrive, SharePoint, Outlook, etc.) or is my only option to do searches using the default Windows se
Any update on this problem? Start11 search results are worse than ever. Searching "update" doesn't even bring up a link to Windows Update in settings anymore, while native Windows search brings up a long list of related options. I prefer the search interface on Start11 but have had to disable Start11 search in order to reliably be able to find anything that's not a start menu shortcut.
[quote who="Neil Banfield" reply="8" id="3849383"] would be curious to know what it shows when you run the above command and also where the one drive for business files are actually located on your hard drive? [/quote] The folder the %OneDrive% environment variable points to is actually the OneDrive for Business folder. It is located at D:\Users\USERNAME\OneDrive - COMPANYNAME It might be helpful to know that there are additional environment variables present t
[quote who="Neil Banfield" reply="6" id="3849326"] does this help find your files you were looking for better? [/quote] I replaced S11Search64.exe as instructed. A few documents that were previously unfound do now appear. However, there are still many searches that do not return the expected results, and completely different ones to the native Windows search. I can type the exact name of many documents and they will not appear in the Start11 search while appearing befo
[quote who="Neil Banfield" reply="4" id="3849098"] I suspect given the reference to Jumplists [/quote] Just to clarify, my reference to jumplists was only meant to illustrate what information Start11 search could see, but not search. It is not meant to imply there's some direct relation between jumplists and search. I don't believe this problem is related to recent documents, as Windows search will find just about any document between local, OneDrive, and SharePoint (OneDriv
This problem is most pronounced for non-application file searches, as that is where the great majority of my searches are directed. I am not noticing missing applications this time and yes, application searches were also causing problems on that original post, but problems were not limited to those types. As stated in the OP, this problem manifested on a virgin system install, so nothing else had been installed (nor has anything related been to-date on this system). I don't te
Start11 search does not return usable results for documents and many other item types. Also, Start11 search results are not remotely the same as what native Windows Start Menu search returns. I posted about this problem about a year ago when it was Start10 and a different PC. When I built a new PC, I immediately bought a license for Start 11 and installed it. The same
Start 10 search broke for me after I updated to Windows 11, although this has also happened to me before after a Windows 10 update. Start10 currently only finds about 25% of all items in the start menu.
[quote who="Neil Banfield" reply="10" id="3805876"] That said, was this a clean install of each insider build or upgrades? [/quote] The update that seemed to coincide with Start10 not being able to access search was actually neither, technically. I did an install in place, so Windows retains my application and files but is much more thorough of an install than an update, but resets less things than a clean install. I understand it's difficult to diagnose something th
[quote who="Neil Banfield" reply="6" id="3805647"] I have just checked here on 21370 and search appears to be working correctly. [/quote] Updated to Windows 21376 and Start10 still does not correctly find all shortcuts in the Start Menu folder (to clarify, some shortcuts are found, but many not). I installed OpenShell and it finds all shortcuts correctly. At this point, since I need a functional start menu, I am going to leave Start10 uninstalled and switch
Rebuilding the search index did not improve the search results. Setting Start10 to use "Cortana" search instead of built-in does cause the missing programs to be returned in results, but this option suffers from a bug where the first letter typed never registers (the first keypress seems to only initiate the search, but isn't passed the character typed).
My shortcuts are almost universally stored in C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs However, I have discovered that the only shortcuts appearing in Start10 seem to be coming from the registry or some other source because, when you open their location, explorer opens to the application install folder, not the shortcuts folder, which would be the normal behavior if the shortcut source were the Start Menu folders.
[quote who="Neil Banfield" reply="2" id="3805544"] The only thing that should impact that would be if MIcrosoft broke their search indexer. [/quote] Native Windows search still works to find programs as expected, so search indexer doesn't seem to be completely broken, however Start10's connection to it may be. When I look at Indexing Options, I do see entries for Start Menu and Start10Crtrlpnl , so it at least seems set up still. What's weird is, it's only b
In the last week or so, program searches from Start10 fail to find shortcuts in All Programs. I have uninstalled, run the purge utility, and reinstalled (latest version) but the behavior persists. Suspect a recent Windows 10 update may have broken this, since those used to break Classic Start/Shell from time to time. Currently on Win 10.0.21370
That is correct. That is the same post I referenced as the source for the methods I attempted.
I am attempting to temporarily disable/quit out of Start10. I followed the procedures outlined in the following forum post: https://forums.stardock.com/437032/page/1/#3589092 (both the command line and Startweak methods) However, Start10 always reactivates itself as soon as I click on the start menu icon. Is the ability to unload Start10 currently broken? If not, what is the correct method for disabling Start10 until manua
In Windows 7 start menu and Classic Shell, I could drag move folders in the start bar. Use case: A program update re-creates it's shortcuts folder and I want to drag it into the appropriate category folder. With Start10, I am able to drag a folder, but it shows the "not allowed" icon when I attempt to drop it into another folder. I have adjusted the folder permissions to have full control over the folders where the start menu is stored and am able to move folders around at-wil