Logo's?

Whats legal and whats not?

from WinCustomize Forums
I have to ask....

What is leagal to upload and what is not when it comes to LOGOs? IE: Toyota/Honda/Coke/NFL Teams/ETC/ETC???
I had the above skin up about a year ago with several different logos in it, and they were all dumped from the site, and I was told that im not allowed to upload skins with company logo's in them.

Yet I see all these wallpapers and skins that use ATI, HONDA, TOYOTA, etc LOGOS in them and im just trying to figure out where the line is drawn?

The skin i had simply had the NFL teams logo in a jewel and the color of the skin matched the teams colors, these were being downloaded like mad, but then they were removed.

I just want to know what makes them different from this https://www.wincustomize.com/ViewSkin.aspx?SID=1&SkinID=21724&LibID=8 or https://www.wincustomize.com/ViewSkin.aspx?SID=1&SkinID=21537&LibID=8 and what about https://www.wincustomize.com/ViewSkin.aspx?SID=1&SkinID=325&LibID=34

Why are these allowed and my NFL skin removed? Could i use the Coke logo and make a clock for DX with it or not?

I am NOT trying to get my skins back up, as I am more then aware that the NFL is VERY possive of their logos, and i do not need to be reminded of their "rules"

I just want to get some idea about what i can and cant upload. Can someone please let me know what the rules are?
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Reply #1 from WinCustomize Forums Top

I'm not familiar with the work moderated but I can confirm the NFL is very keen on pursuing anyone using their logos without permission. WC cannot afford a run-in with such a large organisation

NFL is a big no

Reply #2 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I can't chaeck out the other stuff. The site is so slow right now I can't open the pages (and my lunch break is only so long)
Fences - Organize your desktop icons today!
Reply #3 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Fuzzy,

Im not trying to get anyones worked booted, and to be honest i dont want my skins back up, as i dont need to worry about the NFL, but i just want to be sure that its ok for me to upload things or not.

Thanks!
Reply #4 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Sports logos generate lots of money where auto manufacturers don't really profit from their logos.
Reply #5 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Ok, That sorta makes sense. So ill remake my skins with CAR logo's in them and they can pass the test?
Reply #6 from WinCustomize Forums Top

NFL does not 'give' permission to use its logos.

Other companies/entities are less prohibitive...

Reply #7 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Again, Im just curious, i see so many things with logo's in them, and i just want to be sure what is ok, and whats not.

I guess it all comes down to who's more protective of their logos, and who doesnt care?
Reply #8 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Could come up with your own logo
Reply #9 from WinCustomize Forums Top

I guess it all comes down to who's more protective of their logos, and who doesnt care?

That's part of the equation. It also matters whether you created the logo 100% yourself, or if it was copied and pasted from somewhere else. As long as you created it from scratch, it can fall under the definition of "fan art". Fan art will usually be accepted as long as the copyright holder does not object.

Reply #10 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I never just "copy/paste" anything i do from anyones work. None of the NFL logo's i used were COPIED from anything, all were hand drawn by me myself.

And Yes Weaksid i do have my OWN logo, im not talking about that.

SO does that make my skins "Fan Art" now?
Reply #11 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Again, the NFL will ALWAYS Object to anything they dont own 10000% of.

I just have never done anything with a logo on it since last years' removal of my skins, as I believed that anything with a logo would be removed.

I just was looking for a list of whats allowed and whats banned, if that is even possible?
Reply #12 from WinCustomize Forums Top
An odd approach but I think it fits. If the logo is from a company that would give away free t-shirts with their logo on it then the company probably isn't going to mind you spreading their logo around. If a company makes money in anyway , shape, or form from their logo then it won't pass. Recently the creators of The Simpsons started to crack down on the fan art around the web. There is no such thing as fan art to them. They consider all images to be their property. Of course I found this out when I was half done with a simpsons wb. lol I am trying to finish up the pieces of a Star Trek themed skin and I wouldn't be surprised if one day I was asked to remove it and my other Star Trek related stuff. Harley Davidson is another Co that protects their logo very well. If Harley D ever gets wind of the wallpapers and such in the libraries I am certain they will be contacting someone. Anything with an HD logo on it is money in their pockets.

Reply #13 from WinCustomize Forums Top
yeah, its not fair.. the GOOD logo's we cant use.. Or at least the ones people would LIKE..

I bet i could make a $ if i got the NFL to let me make a "offical" skin for WMP. Oh well, wont happen.
Reply #14 from WinCustomize Forums Top

It is my understanding that WC has been down the sports team road before and organizations were opposed to the use of their logos, leading us to no longer accept them. Until we hear something similar from the auto industry, fan art using car logos will probably not be rejected on that point alone. We try to be as open as possible until it becomes a liability for WinCustomize.

Reply #15 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Thanks

Will have to start on a HONDA/TOYOTA skin now.. LOL
Reply #16 from WinCustomize Forums Top
***eagerly awaits the Ford Pinto Version***
Reply #17 from WinCustomize Forums Top
***eagerly awaits the Ford Pinto Version***




...and make sure you don't leave out the 1960's Rambler with the push button dashboard!!
Reply #18 from WinCustomize Forums Top
hmm if i do a Pinto one.. does it have to Blow up when you click on it?
Reply #19 from WinCustomize Forums Top
see now ya got the idea
Reply #20 from WinCustomize Forums Top
ok, i've got a question too...........i'm working on a skin (again for sysmetrix)
to match one or more of Danillo's themes....i'm using some of his work as an example, but i'm making ALL the graphics from scratch.....now, is this also fanart or do i still need permission, or both ???
Reply #21 from WinCustomize Forums Top
hmm that would be a great METER.. the closer your cpu gets to 100% the more the car blows up?

ROFL
Reply #22 from WinCustomize Forums Top
When in doubt....get the permission (even though I'm sure it might be required anyway in that case).
Reply #23 from WinCustomize Forums Top
i already asked Bulma.......but i don't see why that is any different.......
a car logo is probably even registered, not sure about a wb skin......
Reply #24 from WinCustomize Forums Top

 Citizen -OZZY- ...If you replicate the style of another skinners work in order to port it to a different proggy [even without cut/paste of his images] then the RIGHT thing to do is to seek and obtain consent before distributing it publicly.

Anything 'less' will have feathers ruffled and/or you being ostracized within the community...

Reply #25 from WinCustomize Forums Top
i agree with you Jafo........i'm not planning to do something evil....
just wondering why making a car logo is fan-art and making something inspired by
a wb skin is not......i am seeking consent already, it's a long way from finished
just have too many ideas.....but it can't hurt to ask early on.......

btw....i like the choise of words "ostracized"...sounds scary enough, i'll be good
honest....