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pacov's League of Legends general discussion thread - strategies, etc #3

pacov's League of Legends general discussion thread - strategies, etc #3

Update 5/25/2017

  • This thread is all done.  I've lost interest in jibba jibbing here, but its been fun.  Thanks for all the memories.  
  • I am streaming from time to time on twitch - generally just when I'm trying hard in ranked though.  If interested, you can check that out here:  https://www.twitch.tv/pacovdumptruck
 

Well, I started a thread back in Dec 2011 that’s seen a lot of activity (some 922,000 views over the course of a few years apparently...).  That thread had a good deal of tips/strategies/discussions about League of Legends from new and old players alike.  You can find the previous thread (now archived) here:  https://forums.joeuser.com/413863.  I think its time to start fresh with a new thread.

What’s this thread all about?
For those that followed the previous thread, the type of content you see here will be fairly consistent to what you are used to.  Please consider this a place to discuss LoL related content as you like.  I'll do the same and treat the thread as a blog as well where I talk about what’s going on with me in LoL.  Feel free to jump in and join the discussion if you like.

Quick background on me
I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust. Back in August 2011, I started getting heavily involved in League of Legends, and folks from the community were kind enough to help me figure things out.  I play LoL most nights, stream, make videos and it’s my main gaming interest.

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Reply #476 Top

I should be around for ranked or unranked games tonight unless League is down again.

Reply #477 Top

Quoting pacov, reply 468
Got carried by sy and push.  My nasus was.... well... what my nasus is.  Not super useful but somewhat fun.
End of pacov's quote

Yeah, I'd definitely say that Ghost would be the better play from what I experienced.  The only thing that saved you from dying during that one telegank was that I panicked and thought it was Sy coming down to kill us all.  Had I realized that it was an early game jungle Nasus... 

It was a fun game but I truly regret not giving DanKnee a taste of his own medicine!

"Wow.  How did you lose your lane against Wu?  Fizz should be his counter... so weird.  Were you camped or something?"

Reply #478 Top

Yeah Swan my sched is pretty packed. ~20 hours of work a week plus 15 hours of class a week, then whatever left for studying. Fortunately it's only one week into the semester and I have yet to be bombarded with assignments/projects, if you guys are looking to do ranked tonight I'll be avail. Have festivities to attend this weekend and will probably pack in more studying.

Reply #479 Top

LOL. Ouch Thunder, just read that comment after my response to Swan.

 

I was so out of it that night, I joined cause Turtle was pestering me to.  

At one point of the game I zoned out so much that I was tanking turret without a minion wave because wu E'd then ulti'd me. I noticed after I died, RIP.

Reply #480 Top

summary of night - was in the mood for ranked.  Played 1 and was nunu.  Their jungler was xin and played very well.  Kept me on my toes and tried to counter jungle me (side note - my ryze top went smite/tp... so... you know).  Anyway, I didn't do poorly, but under performed and felt very pressured by xin.  My main issue was feeling like I need to aid top lane due to the dumb no flash bullseye he painted on himself.  Anyway, my mid lane carried us to victory.  Felt like a loss but we stayed in it. Pretty mediocre game for me though.

Got invited to a non ranked right after that.  NA goes down to another ddos. I jump over to LAN and play team builder. Nearly get 2 penta kills running yi. Not really difficult honestly (low level stuffs).  Trying to level the account as quickly as possible, though.  Level 16 atm.  Seems like I'm getting a lot of reps on LAN lately due to attacks though.

 

Anyway, felt like my jungle play was off and I'm going to go back to putting in reps on more practical junglers on NA.

 

Quick rambling... re: "practical junglers" - I was thinking today - hmm.. would like to play volibear.  But - cannot in most comps.  Which kind of blows.  Stonewall was talking about how rengar is pretty much a good pantheon. Panth is nice early/mid and generally poo late.  Rengar just lacks the early gank power and becomes stronger as the game goes on - including the ability to consistently get at a carry (while panth can just try with his ult).  If you take ult strength, I think rango has it hands down.  Anyway, the strength in the ult is in the approach.  Panth has the range, but you have more than enough time to respond in most cases.  Rango can just go omgfckingbbq and take a shot with a higher success rate. Realistically, panth needs his ult and flash to get on a carry. Rango needs ult. Personally, I think rango is a better pick up if I've got 1 person with an equal skill cap on both champs.  w/e tho - panth is fun to play ofc

So, back to the whole voil thing.  Here's what I think - I think for jungle champions, there needs to be a big trade off before champs with immediate gap closers and champs with gap closers.  Voli presses q and moves quickly to an enemy champ.  Wukong presses q and immediately hits an enemy champ. Voli's an inferior pick as a jungler due to his kit.  Voli is a bad pick if you have anyone that can slow or hard cc.  Other junglers can bypass those slows or hard cc through mobility, etc ( a kha hop, a panth hop stun, etc).  Voli gets slows and he can't do any dmg.  Panth gets slowed and he can still hop based on distance etc.  Any jungler that is blown up by a slow is kind of smeh imo ( a nunu snowball or lulu glitterlance means no gank will succeed with voli bear unless you flash).  I think things like that remove champs from being a viable pick at higher levels of play.   That soft cc weakness is only increased when team fights occur.   Voli is really the worst with this as he can do literally zero dmg with his ult or anything if he can't get close.  1 slow and no dmg - just zoning potential. 

Summary of thought is that junglers that are vulnerable to soft cc in the team fight stage and on ganks are not really viable.  I'd go a step further and add that any champ that has a gap closer that bypasses soft cc should have weaknesses providing a tradeoff.  Thoughts on either comments? 

Reply #481 Top

Well I just mystery gifted two people legendaries so it might be possible? 

Reply #482 Top

would also like to finish our series today if possible. 

Reply #483 Top

Cow won himself a nice forecast janna. 

Reply #484 Top

I had some internet problems tonight I hope everyone wasn't waiting for me for games. I hopefully will have access tomorrow so maybe finish the series then? 

Reply #485 Top

Going to try out asension later today if its still up on PBE.  I'm still thinking it will turn into a game mode similar to that of dominion for me (eg something I play a few times and am over), but looking forward to trying something new. 

Reply #486 Top

Really been enjoying working on my adcs lately.  Super dig lucian again.  Anyway, fun games for the most part last night.  Was glad I got a chance to play with those of you that I did. 

cow finally got a legendary mystery gift (forecast janna) and mystery gifted me pulsefire ez. 

 

Oh - and I did take a look at ascension.  I think it has good potential to be fun.  I only had time for a quick putzing around in a custom game, though.

So, its on dominion, but log of war is kind of crazy.  You can't return to your base.  Your trinket tps you to one of platforms so you can access the map.  Xerath is at the middle of the map and scales in power as you level (or just over time).  Xerath is reasonably strong.  I think the fun in trying to take him out is in you fighting against him at the same time as against other people, etc.   Whoever kills xer becomes ascended and becomes larger in size and gets a bunch of stat bonuses - but you are visibile to everyone on the map - even if you are in a bush.  I THINK everyone tries to kill you at this point, but I don't know for sure.  I believe the person with the most points wins, but am not sure.  Need to play it out with folks on PBE to learn more. Fun concepts imo, tho

Reply #487 Top

Well, yesterday was a day of poop ranked games for me.  1st - I played kind of smeh.  Nothing all that great about anything I did.  My team handicapped the crap out of ourselves in game 1.  I wasn't even remotely surprised that we had a problem.  My teams 1st 2 picks are jinx and nunu at jungle.  My team then decides to go malphite top and j4 mid.  No tp.  I don't even kind of know why folks chose those picks.  Our 3rd pick calls mid as j4 and is up against a vel'koz of all things.  He just gets lit up.  Anyway, I do what I can, our bot does their best, but I really think the phone head top/mid decisions cost us and no tp meant no split push or tp ults on malphite that could have swung the game.

Game 2 I just get carried.  Yasuo mid.  I guarantee everyone on the enemy team requested a yasuo ban the next game. 

Game 3 - well, I don't even know.  We get into the same situation where bot lane has to carry or its gg.  We get a mid swain that is pretty awful, a shen top, and a rammus jungle. Again, another comp that's decent for protecting the adc, but not a heck of alot else if the mid falls behind (he did... at champ select.. with his runes).  Kind of my fault for not taking top lane, though.  I could have rolled with that but wanted to play support.  This resulted in a shen top (which I would never have done due to rammus/swain picks). Anyway, I have a so so game, but really leaning towards mediocre in all games with some pretty sloppy play.  Really just wanted to adc and carry.

Got to play adc in a norm after that and just crushed it.  Last game of the night was lagging out.  Restarted client and that sorted it, but that after we gave a dbl kill bot lane. We still were in it and could have come back but things never quite fell into place.  I played ok, but not amazing, my support opted to not buy some wards and chose items instead at a critical time, and I kept getting assists.  I def could have played better.  Was super happy to at least have 1 game where i crushed things though.  Rough night over all.  Flunked out of gold I promos. 

Reply #488 Top

yay... we qualified for our series again eh :P

prob be getting on a bit later than normal tonight. 

Guys - please let cow know your schedules.  He has a girlfriend now and needs to plan his entire life around her whims.  huehuehue

Reply #489 Top

Hey, I just saw this post and if anyone is interested I would love to join people for some league if they wanted. :)

Reply #490 Top

Ehhhh... If you had a totally awesome Tom Servo avatar that would be one thing... but... yeah... Crow?  Eh... maybe...

You have the same IGN Raynman?  Mine's spelled a little different, it's Thundercleese.  Or Thündercles if you're somewhat new to the game and want to play with me and my Bronze buddies on a lower MMR account.  Or maybe you're former pro top laner The Rainman and we'd need to play with your smurf account?

Reply #491 Top

I used to play quite a bit, but then took a break, I believe my summoners is DuderNerdRage. I stream also but i didn't want to just drop the link unless that was chill.

Reply #492 Top

What is your skill level in LoL Raynman? We have some people on our current 5's team roster I wouldn't mind replacing for more active players. We are in need of mostly top/botlane players. 

Reply #493 Top

Quoting pacov, reply 488

yay... we qualified for our series again eh :P

prob be getting on a bit later than normal tonight. 

Guys - please let cow know your schedules.  He has a girlfriend now and needs to plan his entire life around her whims.  huehuehue
End of pacov's quote

It would be nice to have a dedicated night for ranked 5's. I know this is hard to do but my life is going to get a little more busy with a GF, studying for taking the GRE again, and I also have IRL friends that I have started hanging out with more. If you can post times when you are available that would be great. I am free almost any night unless I make plans with people. 

Reply #494 Top

Off the top of my head, Sunday nights might be best for a dedicated night.  Dan said he was free on weekends, and we tend to have good numbers then anyway.

Reply #495 Top

Quoting OMG_ZEX, reply 492
We have some people on our current 5's team roster I wouldn't mind replacing 
End of OMG_ZEX's quote

Ahhh!  I just got back on the team and you're going to kick me off again?  I would think that comedy that comes from Pacov's hatred of me playing Thresh with him bot lane would alone be worth having me on the team.

Reply #496 Top

i can probably make Sunday nights.

i'm moving (again) this Saturday. Hopefully internet will be setup and stable soon and then i'll be able to invest more time into league as other-life obligations start to settle down.

Reply #497 Top

It is hard to say for me right now since I am just getting back at it after a break. But I would say bronze/silver level.

Reply #498 Top

Crow is easily better than tom.  I removed Thunder from my friends list and now have room for you. 

Quoting Raynman, reply 491

I used to play quite a bit, but then took a break, I believe my summoners is DuderNerdRage. I stream also but i didn't want to just drop the link unless that was chill.
End of Raynman's quote

Feel free to drop a link to stream.

re: team ranked nights - meh.  I don't want to commit to a standard time personally, but I'll fill as needed and will likely be available.  If you decide to play on a specific night, let me know though.

Reply #499 Top

I've been sick the last week.  Hopefully on the up-and-up though... miss you guys.

Reply #500 Top

Very cool,

I have been trying to stream nightly to up viewership for the yearly charity event that my buddies and I started up. Add me if you guys want, I play every position.(DuderNerdRage) Here is a link to my stream http://www.twitch.tv/raynman69 and here is the one to my gaming group http://www.twitch.tv/twotongaming please feel free to drop by and I am always open to playing with other people that want to work together vs. with randoms! :) 

Thanks for the add Thundercles!