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Natasin
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Beta 4 So slow

January 27, 2015 7:48:08 PM from Galactic Civilizations III ForumsGalactic Civilizations III Forums

I was wondering if anyone else is having trouble playing the game. I know it's beta but I feel like beta 2 played better than this. I can't even play beta 4 without throwing up my hands in frustration because of the lag that occurs every turn anytime I have to change screens, or change to another ship.

 

I turned off anti-aliasing and bloom and that didn't help

 

Anyway other suggestions?

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Natasin
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Reply #1 January 27, 2015 8:36:39 PM
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Natasin,  What are your system specs?  Might be a good idea to create a support ticket.  Information can be found on the following links

Link to forums for explanation:

https://forums.galciv3.com/452855/page/1/


Link to support tool:
http://sd.stardock.com/Support/supportToolTest/SDSupportTool.exe

Oh! Here is the location for dmp files!
"C:\ProgramData\Stardock\Galactic Civilizations III"

Also wouldn't hurt to include a saved game file.

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Natasin
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Reply #2 January 28, 2015 4:00:43 AM
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Thanks Seilore, I'll do the above when I have a chance. Thanks though. I do want to make GalCiv III the best it can be if I can.

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Reply #3 January 28, 2015 7:49:25 PM
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I've experienced this issue on two different PC's.

I submitted a ticket.

Ticket ID: WRC-667-50351


For anyone else reading, I don't believe it to be a system spec issue. I'm running an i7 8gb ram and a decent video card and still get this. Is my PC brand new and top of the line? No. But I can only assume it is well above whatever recommended specs they're aiming at.

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Reply #4 January 29, 2015 10:07:36 AM
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Thanks for submitting a ticket.

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Reply #5 January 31, 2015 10:55:06 AM
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I'm seeing something very similar.  Core i7 with 6 GB of RAM and a Radeon 5800.  Not a top of the line setup, but shouldn't be unplayable.

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Reply #6 January 31, 2015 11:39:40 AM
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What size map are you using.

Like in previous  times  the bigger the map the more resources needed.

Wonder if eventually they will have to have a scalable requirement for RAM  depending on map size.

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Reply #7 January 31, 2015 2:13:19 PM
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Sorry, I ended up with a double post instead of a correction.

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Reply #8 January 31, 2015 2:14:00 PM
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Sorry, hit the wrong button again.

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Reply #9 January 31, 2015 4:24:09 PM
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I just finished checking RAM use by galaxy size and here are my results. The figures are all total amounts. All figures in the first table are  just to the first turn. Each time, I exited the game and restarted it.

Idle OS + steam + all the monitors I have running

                              2.41 GB

GC3 Start menu   3.69 GB -- added about 1.3 GB

GC3 Tiny galaxy  4.49 GB -- added about 0.8 GB

GC3 Small            4.53 GB -- another .04 over Tiny

GC3 Medium        4.56 GB -- another .03 over Small

GC3 Large            4.71 GB -- another .15 over Medium

GC3 Huge             4.92 GB -- another .21 over Large

GC3 Gigantic        5.28 GB -- another .36 over Huge

GC3 Immense      5.92 GB -- another .64 over Gigantic

Then I exited the game and reloaded a game I had in progress at turn 54 with what looks to me like about 15% of the galaxy explored, all opposing civs selected, all game variables at maximum ("star frequency = abundant", "planet frequency = abundant", etc), 16 colonies, 30 ships, 8 star bases and one shipyard, no mines, rally points, research just barely into the "age of war", and about a dozen custom ship designs.

GC3 Immense reload 6.06 GB -- another .14 over Immense turn 1.

All of these figures are for this one time. I have seen variances before when I have ran this sequence repeatedly, so as they say, your mileage may vary. I have seen it go as high as 7.6 GB when playing an immense galaxy.

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Reply #10 January 31, 2015 7:13:03 PM
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Quoting Lucky Jack,
reply 9

I just finished checking RAM use by galaxy size and here are my results. The figures are all total amounts. All figures in the first table are  just to the first turn. Each time, I exited the game and restarted it.

Idle OS                 2.41 GB

GC3 Start menu   3.69 GB -- added about 1.3 GB

GC3 Tiny galaxy  4.49 GB -- added about 0.8 GB

GC3 Small            4.53 GB -- another .04 over Tiny

GC3 Medium        4.56 GB -- another .03 over Small

GC3 Large            4.71 GB -- another .15 over Medium

GC3 Huge            4.92 GB -- another .21 over Large

GC3 Gigantic       5.28 GB -- another .36 over Huge

GC3 Immense      5.92 GB -- another .64 over Gigantic

Then I exited the game and reloaded a game I had in progress at turn 54 with what looks to me like about 15% of the galaxy explored, 16 colonies, 30 ships, 8 star bases and one shipyard, no mines, rally points, research just barely into the "age of war", and about a dozen custom ship designs.

GC3 Immense reload 6.06 GB -- another .14 over Immense turn 1.

All of these figures are for this one time. I have seen variances when I have ran this sequence before, so as they say, your mileage may vary. I have seen it go as high as 7.6 GB when playing an immense galaxy.

wow thats a lot i crash when i get just over 3 gigs used but i can get about 50-100 turns on an immense map with all ai set at highest level before that happens

 

edit actually thats not as bad as i thought i mean you're only using 3.5 gigs on startup of an immense map i am curious why im using less then that though now i need to start checking usage

 

so heres my numbers to compare

idle os                 1.21 gb

steam                  1.35

GC3 start menu      2.82

Game Load          3.74 gb         *1

grphics freeze        3.41 gb        *2

killed GC3  idle os    .7 gb          *3

(*1)    loaded an existing game huge map, (i think) turn 113, 1 ai 

(*2)    its actually using less then at load i always thought i was crashing due to memory usage but now i think that may not be the case                    

(*3)    it seems that some non crucial memory users were pushed down or closed ... i need to figure out if i need those and possibly close them permenantly

at graphics freeze GC3 was listed as using 2,846,280 K memory

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Reply #11 January 31, 2015 10:32:27 PM
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androshalforc, I see that I forgot to include some pertinent information, so I have edited my post.

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