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[quote]Please clairify this. Do you mean to say any one who expects Obama to do badly as president is automatically a racist?[/quote] Hardly, LW wrote that if he screws up it will set race relations back a hundred years. Why else would anyone say "well what did you expect?" because he's a democrat? how would that effect race relations? No she's saying that some would say "well what did you expect for a black man". That would be very clearly racist and only racist people

Reply to We've witnessed history. in History Stardock Forums

[quote]People will be saying..."Well, what did you expect?"[/quote] Correction, what racist will be saying.

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[quote]Oh I understand the significance. and if you would have stated that in your reply that would have been it.[/quote] "I must have missed that part of history when blacks hung whites." I did state that, one has a history one does not. [quote]I don't find it comical to hang effigies of political figures (black or white). You know there would have been a huge s**t storm if someone hung Obama in effigy, even if it was politically motivated not racially and rightly so. So

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[quote]I glad in your world only minority can be victims of hate. I guess the term liberty and justice for all doesn't mean spit for you either. Maybe if your neighbor hauled a likeness of your mother up a tree, you'd consider that a hoot and good fun too. While I care about the past, I'm concerned about NOW. I don't condone hanging anyone (innocent through the judiciary of a crime) or anyone in effigy, for kicks or not.[/quote] You seriously don't understand the significance of a

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[quote]I don't think being black is anything special and don't care which skin colour someone has. So I don't see the significance of an event that is neither remarkable nor surprising. Agreed. It was not a matter of if, but when.[/quote] [e digicons]:rolleyes:[/e] Being the first at anything is historically significant. If Hillary would have won being the first woman president would have been historically significant. Obviously neither being black nor a woman is an accomp

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[quote]And that's really the important part, isn't it?[/quote] Important and obvious to most, the difference is symbolism. There will always be racism in some form as long as there are differences that can categorize someone, even an accent can get you labeled. Just because the US has come farther than most doesn't mean it's no longer a factor. It's in fact still a large part of the mind set of blacks here as witnessed through Reverend Write's sermons and the

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Palin cost McCain all the swing votes. I honestly don't see the point in energizing people whom are going to vote for you already. What poll has told the Republicans that America wants a good ol boy or girl in office? [quote]I agree with all you said except the statement above. The Halloween "hanging" of Palin in effigy this year was not illegal, but if someone did the same to an Obama mannequin that would have been a hate crime. Not everyone is protected equally under the law.[/quot

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I think this historical event that will change America for the better regardless of his performance in office. The racial divide in this country has just collapsed and I hope minorities can take away the right lessons from this and realize that they can become productive citizens of their country. The reaction around the world is quite amazing, it's like all the wounds were healed overnight and the USA has again become the land of opportunity for all. So m

Reply to Fun with exit polls part 1 in Politics Stardock Forums

[quote]Obviously if Obama wins Ohio McCain is toast.[/quote] Ohio just got called for Obama.

Reply to Palin, Obama and other jokes in Politics Stardock Forums

We need a McCain/Palin win to shore up the merchandising sector after Bush leaves. <embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="400" height="355" src="http://www.theonion.com/content/themes/common/assets/videoplayer/flvplayer.swf" allowscriptaccess="always" wmode="transparent" flashvars="file=http://www.theonion.com/content/xml/86319/video&autostart=false&image=http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/ANTI-BUSH_ECONOMY_article.jpg&bufferlength=3&embedded=true

Reply to Redistribution in Politics Stardock Forums

[quote]No, it is the truth. It is the time value. If I get $100 for the first 40 hours a week I work, but only $20 for each additional hour, I am going to do other things with my time than waste it working. It is basic economics[/quote] Or maybe they're motivated to find a way to make that 40 hrs worth a $110 an hr. [quote]No they are not. Try spending your drivers license.[/quote] It is irrelevant whether or not I can spend it, if someone pays for anything

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[quote]He wasn't narrowing the definition. He just gave a definition. "Redistribution" is a form of "distribution". What's your problem with his definition? Cannot use it for propaganda?[/quote] Wealth redistribution includes any benefit someone receives at the expense of others, even if it's just at a state level. If my money pays for a school or a park for people that didn't pay anything you have x taking money from y to give to

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[quote]Don't call things "bull" if you don't understand them![/quote] No you don't understand what I was responding to. taltamir said "Heavier taxation of individuals making more money decreases the incentive to make more money", that's a broad erroneous assumption on on what motivates people and how the wealthy would respond to a tax increase. Some would expand their business to make their time more valuable. Some might cut spending. I think a very small perce

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[quote]Heavier taxation of individuals making more money decreases the incentive to make more money, and reduces the amount of people willing to dedicate themselves to intensive schooling (law, medicine, REAL business).[/quote] That's bull, more money is more money a better job is a better job, the only way this would have any truth is if you put a 100% tax on what you earned after a point. If you add a 5% tax to someone's income they still have the same choice, work

Reply to Getting sick of the race card in Politics Stardock Forums

[quote]Hmmm...Yea, I can see Powell and Watts voting for a white democrat. NOT. Besides, I was referring to the "white guilt" that many think they suffer from (actually I think it is just racism guilt, but the "white guilt" sounds less offensive).[/quote] I don't agree especially about Powell, but your saying skin color was a tipping point for them I'm saying skin color was a tipping point the other way for many others. That's not a stretch and any "white guilt" can f

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[quote]With the substitution of the word 'bad' for the word 'good', I completely agree with this. However, that doesn't change the race dynamic and does not mean a white socialist would have the election sown up.[/quote] I think white skin has at least a 10 point advantage over black in a presidential race and that would make this race sown up. The country wasn't quite ready for a black president yet we're still a country of old white guys with an air of superiority.

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Oh please, the only reason a black, could be Muslim with ties to a domestic terrorist is anywhere near the presidency right now is good timing. Everything had to come together for this to happen and the fact that this race is even close is proof of that. We had 8 years of not so good republican leadership and just that alone would lean the country toward the democrats in the next election. Add in a wildly unpopular mismanaged war a goofy president that is hated so bad by 2

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[quote]I just wanted to illustrate that for anyone out there not voting for Obama because of his politics there's another not voting for him just because either black and or a Muslim.[/quote] That should read "for him just because he is either black and or they think he is a Muslim" [quote]The same can be said for those voting for Obama, I believe there are more people voting for Obama who are ignorant to his policies (in other words don't trul

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[quote]I disagree. Race has a small part. But I think today it is cancelling. You get as many voting for him as against him because of race. The factor that you allude to is not race, but inexperience and ineptness. Obama has both in great quantity.[/quote] I think anyone who would vote for him just because he is black would certainly vote for a white democrat, so I don't see that canceling anything out. I want to clarify that I see and agree with the point

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Die hard republicans wouldn't vote democratic no matter what the candidates color was but I do believe if Obama and everything he's done and said was packaged in an all American white man this election wouldn't even be close. I live in south west Florida and almost everyone I know is openly racist and even think he's a terrorist. His name has been a gift too racist everywhere they can just call him a Muslim terrorist without revealing their hatred

Reply to Obama and the tax tipping point in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]As for what constitutes a "social contract" what social contract do you speak of? Let's take your premise at face value - why do we need the *federal government* to forcibly take property from one person to give to another?[/quote] Why do we need government to forcible take money from one person and use it on unnecessary wars or developing better ways to kill people? Then what we can't give they just borrow on our credit. How is borrowing the money any different than jus

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[quote]We're STILL waiting for another mind of the same level as Newton to come up. Moreover, saying "eventually" someone will discover whatever does society very little good in the meantime.[/quote] Intelligent's manifest itself in so many way's you can't make such a statement. Newton's work was simple by today's standards but he was certainly a visionary. Newton was a physicist, mathematician, astronomer, philosopher, alchemist and theologian. In his time it

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[quote]Moreover, history has demonstrated time and time again that no, someone else doesn't typically step up and fill the void. Human talent is not a commodity. History is replete with examples of indispensible people. If not for Newton or Eistein, for example, the world would be a very different place and not likely for the better.[/quote] Really, name one time that history has shown this to be true. Everything these people discovered would hav

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[quote]On what basis do you say this? So a Bill Gates is just as important to society as a drug addled bum living in the gutter?[/quote] My fault that statement wasn't meant to include drains on society but Joe the plumber as a baseline. I'm seeing this from a relative point of view if not big G it would have been someone else or most likely several others in the OS business. If it were not for AMD we'd be waiting to shell out 1500 for the Christ

Reply to Obama and the tax tipping point in Politics JoeUser Forums

Leauki on Oct 24, 2008 [quote]Why is that not good for the country? I am serious so try to give a serious answer.[/quote] Draginol on Oct 24, 2008