My boss just raised his hands to my face...

For a Director, I would think he would know that he stepped over the line.
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Try to push him over the edge, once he hit you, sue the crap out of him

JTB- This person has an anger and control problem. My boss would only 'raise his hands' to me once before I would be taking action against them. >

When you say "raised his hand to my face" do you mean he struck you, or just came close?

You need to call him on it.....demand a conference with the witnesses included and speak your mind. If you don't then you are leaving yourself open for incident #2 which may be in private and may involve violent contact. I would also prepare and present a grievance and have all involved sign it at the conference including your offending and offensive boss. Draw the line. If he steps over it again he's got more than a little bit of a problem...you have a right to be treated fairly and without undue duress. If your superior has a problem with your performance or conduct it should be addressed in a professional manner! >

Allot of people do not like him there because of his ability to be quick to anger.

And I mean anger.


I called the job to find out who I should speak to. I decided that I would 'write him up' for this action. Did I mention that he obtusely threatened me by stating that he has himself covered and don't play games with him (or don't start any) because he will win?

No he didn't strike me, but his hand was about 4-5 inches from my face... I am so shocked I guess, that I didn't realize it until today... 2 days later.

Did I mention that he was in a fighting stance when he did it???


Did I tell you that he has a witness.... my supervisor (who drinks heaviely... even at work... AT WORK) was there too? He didn't say anything.


Apparently the Director has him in his pocket.

Sounds like this isnt a place you want to keep working at.

Did I mention that he was in a fighting stance when he did it???

In a legal document such as dealing with this. Do NOT put that in there, word it as being an "aggressive stance". If it came to going to court, his lawyer would assassinate you posing the question asking if you are a "professional" as in martial arts teacher etc.

In a legal document such as dealing with this. Do NOT put that in there, word it as being an "aggressive stance". If it came to going to court, his lawyer would assassinate you posing the question asking if you are a "professional" as in martial arts teacher etc.

Wow! Really? I never thought of that. This whole thing has got me bugged out. I feel that he is the type of guy who would want revenge or something. And he is legally allowed to carry a gun too in NYC.

Do you think he carries one to work?

Sounds like this isnt a place you want to keep working at

Exactly. Get out now. If you only knew my experience you wouldn't hesitate. I was struck at work by a supervisor, with a major government job. Get out. Its dead end grief and no benefit to you. Don't think lawyers will help you. They are the scum of the earth.

Joe, isn't this the same place that drove your BP to dangerous levels????? WHY ARE YOU STILL THERE?! Darling, find another job. The drunk supervisor wants to keep on drinking and drawing a paycheck, he will never back you.

A Bully will always resort to threats. This man can clearly not be trusted. Who doses he think he is? Who cares. He relises on yours and others fears. There is only one way to deal with this. Write a full report out and take it as far as is needed. You owe this to yourself. Feel the fear and do it anyway. Report this venirate bully.

A lawyer may also be able to present it the same as a sexual harrassment lawsuit. The same way someone would use a woman's fears against her, he is using fear to control you. Don't think he is gonna change either.

Write a full report out and take it as far as is needed

The problem is a little thing called retaliation. You can write a report against them, and they can suspend you. And, its a dead end trying to prove unlawful retaliation. You can hire scum of the earth too. GET OUT NOW!!!
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I tend to think that if you only 'get out now' you are leaving this belligerent vicious jerk to take out his temper on another innocent victim. Of course it's up to you to decide what you want to do and to measure how much is worth what when it comes to making a living and risking your health and well-being over it.....laws differ in different places.....do you have any kind of 'employee handbook' or other documentation that you may have received upon hire that outlines the protocols exercised by your company? If so....are you able to research it and to find the appropriate article that can serve to apply to your situation as a defense? If not, you are obviously distressed by the situation and may still be able to file a civil suit for harrassment and threat of bodily harm. You have to decide yourself how upset you are...how threatened you really felt....and feel.....and decide for yourself if this was an isolated incident that you think will not re occur ....or that you indeed feel as if there is imminent danger to your position and your person that makes you unable to perform your duties and in fear for your personal safety. It's ultimately up to you to ascertain and disseminate accurately the occurances, record them...and reflect upon them. If you deem it necessary then you need to act according to the due processes of your company...or if you feel seriously threatened....the law.

Think on it....your decision will affect not only your job...but your credibility as a prospective employee to any other company......also....

I'm sorry you had to go through it....it's a terrible thing to be threatened in a way that could either harm you physically or financially...both can be devastating.

Good Luck

Intimidation is illegal. I guess you need to decide if it's worth it to stay and fight. (Legally)

#11 by Skinner CerebroJD - 7/1/2004 4:00:37 PM Do you think he carries one to work?

Yes he is licensed to do so he can arrest people and everything like a police officer.

If you guys remember, I was the one who posted about having a 210/180 blood pressure.
https://www.wincustomize.com/msgboard.asp?BID=WC&id=266252
https://www.wincustomize.com/msgboard.asp?BID=WC&id=259779

All they above is the main factors as to why I laid in the hospital bed for the first time in my life at the age of 29. I didn't quit because it was the first job I had in almost 2 years. I wanted to get my life back together after an incident 4 years ago caused me to loose my job (and other things) I wanted to help my Mom pay bills and my sister to live better.




A quote from a letter I am about to send

By May, my health had improved somewhat, but the state of affairs at the job did not. It would also seemed that my supervisor found out that I had spoke to his supervisors about him and seemed out to have me fired. In May of 2004 he basically lied about me covering for him for a shift at the BLANK and wrote me up for an offense that is one of the biggest inaction a officer can do of which is leaving his post. Although I was told that this write up was not going to go against me (by the same management who probably told him I said something), it became clear that now I have to worry about him coming after me.

So basically I was caught between my supervisor, my company, and now the director of the place I work threatens me. The atmosphere where I work tends to be hostile, the director and the company I work for are at each other (putting the officers in the middle), the supervisor and the company I work for is at each other and finally the place I work is annoyed with the company I work with.

DAMN!!!!

What a site... a sensitive site by the way, a museum, in New York, open to the public... the building itself is a maze or conglomerated biuldings...

Its really bad isn't it?

Oh... and I seem to have an aversion to bullies. Every fight I had was with one except one person (and I don't remember who that was).


Oh well, such is life.

actually anyone can arrest anyone pretty much "Citizen Arrest" is still on the books.
bounty hunters at one point in time had more leway and power than police because of limitations presented by laws.

you should consider reporting him for doing that. an un-balanced person should not have a carry permit let alone the fact that raising his hand in such a manner is legally considered battery in many states.

3 WORDS Hostile Work environment

Check this out, and talk to a lawyer
http://www.employeedevelopmentsolutions.com/freearticles/hostileworkenvironments.htm

My Brother just completed something like this in Texas, and netted a tidy bundle, as well as Overtime Screwages Money.

But be assured, you will get canned, in the process... for one reason or another. They will manufacture a reason.

Always remember this as well, unless it is your Company, there is no such things as Company Loyalty.

You guys don't understand. I am going through the exact same thing myself. Lawsuits and legal battles galor. I could tell you all that happened but it would be too sad and private. Needless to say, the director at my establishment was after me for ten years. Finally, they just made things up and got rid of me after I filed complaints against them. Nothing matters. Lawyers are so crooked. My lawyer is seriously being investigated by the state bar right now. They are discussing legal preceedings against him. I too was in the hospital with serious heart problems over the situation a few years ago. They were ordered to Cease and Desist by a court order. It didn't stop them. There is so much more that you just can't even begin to comprehend. I was attacked by supervisors physically. My car was attacked and damaged. Supervisors were constantly cursing me, trying to provoke me. They would just deny it. Those who witnessed it, were afraid for their jobs. So, they wouldn't talk. It's not nearly over but, if I had to do it all again, I would have left there long ago. Everyone was telling me to get out. But, I am a fighter. Hopefully not a loser. But, it is a big, big battle going on against a major city. Please, find another job and peace for yourself. If you stay, don't complain. It's your fault if you stay. If you complain, you will be targeted as a trouble maker. Then, your reputation will be ruined as mine was, and finding another job or a employer who will believe your story will be very difficult. Once again, you will be labeled a trouble maker. And new employers will avoid you like the plague. See my point?

But be assured, you will get canned, in the process... for one reason or another. They will manufacture a reason.

Exactly, and there goes your reputation. What do you do in the meantime, while you wait for the justice system to hopefully work justice? See the scenario? Do you starve while you wait? Everyone told me this is what would happen. They will starve you out of the fight, or make you do something foolish to give them justification. What do you think the term "going postal" came from? Were all those unfortunate people just bad employees? Of course they were, now. But, were they pushed to it? More than likely, yes. In the very department where I worked, another employee went postal over it. Killed three supervisors and is now locked up for life. Do you think anyone cares that these supervisors pushed him to it? Even the State Government sent my department a warning about their treatment of him. Then, came me. They ignored the law, and did it again. But, this time I didn't go postal. Is it worth the aggravation and the years lost out of your life fighting a long battle? If I could only turn back the clock, I would have got out! It isn't worth it.

Joe, in the meantime, buy yourself one of those digital voice recorders and just stick it in your shirt pocket. It's voice activated and works very well. If you have to stay there until you find another job, protect yourself in that way. At least you won't have to rely on a drunk supervisor to back you up if it comes down to it.