Is there any reason to be in the UP?

What exactly do powerful nations benefit from being in the UP? I can't find a list of UP resolutions but if the UP is like it was in GC2 then most of the resolutions just appear to be rules that help mostly the weaker factions, like taking money from the wealthy or banning warfare.

Do powerful nations have any reason to be in the UP?

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some of the votes give the winner only, approval bonuses, etc - so, its worth staying in - as well, you can use your voting power to shoot down anything that will help your primary enemy, over the next 50 turns.  russia and china have stayed in the UN, for similar reasons.  the only reason I can see leaving is if vote after vote, you get nothing but have to pay taxes on it....

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To avoid a bs -3 diplo penalty?

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thats what North Korea said!!!

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Quoting dansiegel30, reply 1

.  russia and china have stayed in the UN, for similar reasons. 
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The same could also be said about the US and Israel if you want to get political.

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Quoting The, reply 4

The same could also be said about the US and Israel if you want to get political.

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And all the members of the Security Council. And all the non-security council members. In fact, it's kinda of the whole point of the UN, really...

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the reason is to tip the voting in your favor for a slight advantage.

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And the best reason to stay in is the resolution that keeps other races from colonizing planets inside your zone of influence.

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Quoting drakkos137, reply 2

To avoid a bs -3 diplo penalty?
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Do you still get the penalty with races who they themselves have left the UP? Other races can also leave right? Because if they can't then the mechanic is broken sicne it doesn't make sense that only the player can leave.

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Quoting hardcore_gamer, reply 8

Other races can also leave right?
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I've seen the Drengin leave.

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Quoting The, reply 4

The same could also be said about the US and Israel if you want to get political.
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My country, In her intercourse with foreign nations may she always be in the right, and always successfulright or wrong.

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I was under the impression that if you weren't in the UP then you could not trade with players/AI who were. 

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Quoting LordVirtuvian, reply 11

I was under the impression that if you weren't in the UP then you could not trade with players/AI who were. 
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I thought you just suffered a relationship penalty. It doesn't make much sense that you can trade with players who aren't in the UP. It would make more sense to just have special UP resolutions for that.

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I've seen the 'bad guys' like yor, drengin, and krynn leave in many games.  As I play a good guy, they never seem to like me anyways and war is inevitable, so I don't  setup trade routes with them, ever.  i am pretty sure that you can trade techs with them at any time unless you are at war with them even if not in the UP, like the norm.