Diplomacy: Requesting cessation of hostilities

...sort of leaves me frustrated. When AI realizes that it no longer wants to fight, you are left with two choices...either let them off the hook (FOR FREE) or tell them to pack stardust because you want to exterminate every last one of them. Why not allow them the ability to pay their way out with technology, ceding the planet currently under assault, ship(s), starbase(s) or credits. As it is I always feel rather unfulfilled after beating the opponent down just to let them off the hook. If AI offered reparation from its assets as a third choice it would seem much more realistic, and of course, the AI can always say no if it decides you asked for too much. Then you can feel much more justified in continuing the @$$ whuppin!  XD

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This aspect has frustrated me in a LOT of games.  Even if the game in question allows the AI to sue for peace, most often the game design won't allow the AI to try to bribe the player to set aside hostilities.  It is, in fact, a matter of "You can declare peace now, or else we are prepared to fight to the last infant if need be."  Which is ridiculous.  There never was a war where EVERYONE on the losing side was willing to fight to their total extermination.  (Some cases of the victors not accepting surrenders though.)  Entire tribes, nations, and even empires have surrendered under terms that effectively meant ALL of the losers became slaves.  Anything except total extermination.

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"most" of the time you can tel them to pound sand, wait a few turns, then you initiate the terms of their surrender.

 

But i agree , the AI should due better than a yes/no

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought when they sued for peace, a peace treaty shows up on YOUR side of the bargaining table.  Therefore you can put credits, tech, planets, whatever on their side?  Hence, you can "sell peace".  I thought it worked when you propose peace as well.  And the game figures out who peace is more valuable for (who is winning the war).  No??  I'm absolutely certain I have gotten something for peace before.

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My mistake.  So, yes, when they ask for peace, there is only the option for YES or NO.  

 

However, you can say no, and immediately offer peace, and receive some concessions.  The concessions will be quite small when you do this immediately.  Haha, I was only able to squeeze a few hundred credits out of the Yor.  However, I am certain that if you continue to pummel them, and offer peace later, your concessions will be higher.  If not, then the game is fouled.  Hell, during the concessions, you can even do a full trade session, which wont happen for atleast 10 turns after peace is brokered, due to the diplomatic cooldown.