Play with the Devs Game Night - May 21

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Join members of the Servo development team online for multiplayer games starting at 7pm Central Time (GMT-5), this Thursday, May21. 

Programmers, artists, and game designers that work on Servo will be hanging out in Servo Gamers Group Chat and playing Coop and PvP games for an hour or more. Come on out to chat, ask questions, say hello, and or kick some developer butt.

Hope to see you there!

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Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top

Good deal darkstar - the more the merrier.  :)

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Reply #3 from Stardock Forums Top

Just a heads up for everyone - we're going to start playing in about an hours time.

Reply #4 from Stardock Forums Top

Thanks to everyone that came out - had some good games with wondible, Draco, and others.  Hopefully you enjoyed yourselves and took it easy on the developers. ;)

Reply #5 from Stardock Forums Top

Thanks everyone for the games :)

 

Shall we post our hot takes here? Here's mine:

 

-IMO Turrets are too weak, every time someone tries to tower me it doesn't work. beacons and servo upgrades are more cost effective area denial IMO, and can help you go offensive. Might be cooler with upgrades but being rooted in place, costing the most to build and requiring progression down its own set of upgrades make it pretty pricey to invest into.

-Might just be because the volley/barrage pods are the most fleshed out parts right now but gun drones die really fast in a group fight, stun and heal bots feel pretty fragile too. I use a lot of boring drones as meatshields

-Bloom meteorites land on top of eachother in Emerald Hills coop, creating really hardcore zones of Creep Death. By the end it can take both players to push them with missiles

 

Looking forward to doing this again.

Reply #6 from Stardock Forums Top

Really fun, thanks for the games.  at one point my main servo did not rebuild. the timer just stuck at 0 for what seemed like eternity, eventually blink did come back.  was this a bug or some kind of attack?  

My micro and booming wasnt really enough to compete, It would be cool to have some sort of shiled power that protects buildings and also a better way to attack economy.  Soo much damage has to be inflicted to make a dent that quick hit and run raids really dont accomplish anything.  

All in all i had three very exciting matches that got my blood pumping. well done:)

 

 

 

Reply #7 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting darkstar287, reply 6

Really fun, thanks for the games.  at one point my main servo did not rebuild. the timer just stuck at 0 for what seemed like eternity, eventually blink did come back.  was this a bug or some kind of attack?  

My micro and booming wasnt really enough to compete, It would be cool to have some sort of shiled power that protects buildings and also a better way to attack economy.  Soo much damage has to be inflicted to make a dent that quick hit and run raids really dont accomplish anything.  

All in all i had three very exciting matches that got my blood pumping. well done:)
End of darkstar287's quote

Can put a good dent in them if you pack 6x barrage or volley pods on your servos and snipe with them. Going in and knocking down a tower or 2 and retreating can work too, if they rebuild you spent 0 bloom to cost them 250 bloom ;) Maybe more unit variety later might shake things up WRT that, there isn't really a way to siege blobs of towers with drones, its all on the servos.

 

Oh and a bug I found, when a servo dies after their rockets have launched for abilities like hail mary the rockets won't do damage when they hit.

Reply #8 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Dracohouston, reply 5

Thanks everyone for the games :)

 

Shall we post our hot takes here? Here's mine:

 

-IMO Turrets are too weak, every time someone tries to tower me it doesn't work. beacons and servo upgrades are more cost effective area denial IMO, and can help you go offensive. Might be cooler with upgrades but being rooted in place, costing the most to build and requiring progression down its own set of upgrades make it pretty pricey to invest into.

-Might just be because the volley/barrage pods are the most fleshed out parts right now but gun drones die really fast in a group fight, stun and heal bots feel pretty fragile too. I use a lot of boring drones as meatshields

End of Dracohouston's quote

Really need to know more about the situation. When was it in the game? What upgrades did you have? Parts? etc.

Overall, pending more info, these observations are "in line" with the design goals.

Turrets do lose, eventually, to Servos. They should be a decent stop early, but offensive needs to win at the end.

Drones are a little more powerful in our latest internal build, but yeah, they won't do well against AOE. The boring drones are specifically there as the 'meat' shield. If you want to soak up or do a lot of damage to non-drones, you need the borers. As we add more drone types, those relationships will change a bit. But, like towers, drones will eventually lose out to servos at the end (within reasonable numbers).

Reply #9 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting darkstar287, reply 6

Really fun, thanks for the games.  at one point my main servo did not rebuild. the timer just stuck at 0 for what seemed like eternity, eventually blink did come back.  was this a bug or some kind of attack?  

My micro and booming wasnt really enough to compete, It would be cool to have some sort of shiled power that protects buildings and also a better way to attack economy.  Soo much damage has to be inflicted to make a dent that quick hit and run raids really dont accomplish anything.  
End of darkstar287's quote

Yes, we agree on the econ raiding. We've been making some changes in that regard. I don't think the next build's balance/features will fully fix things, but it should be closer.

Some kind of shield power like that is on the list, actually.

Reply #10 from Stardock Forums Top

I noticed that humans can reliably dodge volley pods, but no matter which way I turn against the AI, the explosions always appear on top of my units.  Does the AI cheat, or am I just one second too slow?

Reply #11 from Stardock Forums Top

Missed the multiplayer night, due to work. Is there another one planned for this weekend?

Any idea when the next one is on the agenda?

 

Reply #12 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting wondible, reply 10

I noticed that humans can reliably dodge volley pods, but no matter which way I turn against the AI, the explosions always appear on top of my units.  Does the AI cheat, or am I just one second too slow?
End of wondible's quote

I've noticed this too, but when the explosions appear on my units against the AI, they don't do damage. It just seems to be a graphical glitch.

Reply #13 from Stardock Forums Top

Maybe I'm thinking of the previous build on the damage count.

Reply #14 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting marmycat, reply 11

Missed the multiplayer night, due to work. Is there another one planned for this weekend?

Any idea when the next one is on the agenda?

 
End of marmycat's quote

No event planned for this weekend, but I'm sure we'll likely have something going for next Friday or Saturday.  Any suggestions on the time?

Reply #15 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting SneakyMax, reply 12


Quoting wondible,
reply 10

I noticed that humans can reliably dodge volley pods, but no matter which way I turn against the AI, the explosions always appear on top of my units.  Does the AI cheat, or am I just one second too slow?



I've noticed this too, but when the explosions appear on my units against the AI, they don't do damage. It just seems to be a graphical glitch.

End of SneakyMax's quote

Yes, certainly no intent for the AI to cheat on that.

Reply #16 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting BXP_Godgib, reply 8


Quoting Dracohouston,
reply 5

Thanks everyone for the games :)

 

Shall we post our hot takes here? Here's mine:

 

-IMO Turrets are too weak, every time someone tries to tower me it doesn't work. beacons and servo upgrades are more cost effective area denial IMO, and can help you go offensive. Might be cooler with upgrades but being rooted in place, costing the most to build and requiring progression down its own set of upgrades make it pretty pricey to invest into.

-Might just be because the volley/barrage pods are the most fleshed out parts right now but gun drones die really fast in a group fight, stun and heal bots feel pretty fragile too. I use a lot of boring drones as meatshields



Really need to know more about the situation. When was it in the game? What upgrades did you have? Parts? etc.

Overall, pending more info, these observations are "in line" with the design goals.

Turrets do lose, eventually, to Servos. They should be a decent stop early, but offensive needs to win at the end.

Drones are a little more powerful in our latest internal build, but yeah, they won't do well against AOE. The boring drones are specifically there as the 'meat' shield. If you want to soak up or do a lot of damage to non-drones, you need the borers. As we add more drone types, those relationships will change a bit. But, like towers, drones will eventually lose out to servos at the end (within reasonable numbers).

End of BXP_Godgib's quote
It just feels like the turrets are a waste of bloom, massed up they can make an area temporarily dangerous but you have to spend so much bloom that any time someone does it I just tech up and roll over them. If they put down 4 turrets that's 1000 bloom they didn't spend teching up or on a movable army. Too much opportunity cost IMO, and because they don't stay useful long term the upgrades that might have brought them up to usefulness require over 1000 more bloom.

Reply #17 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Dracohouston, reply 16

It just feels like the turrets are a waste of bloom, massed up they can make an area temporarily dangerous but you have to spend so much bloom that any time someone does it I just tech up and roll over them. If they put down 4 turrets that's 1000 bloom they didn't spend teching up or on a movable army. Too much opportunity cost IMO, and because they don't stay useful long term the upgrades that might have brought them up to usefulness require over 1000 more bloom. 

End of Dracohouston's quote

Fair enough. Looking forward to your thoughts on them with the next update.