[Request] Give us the old Altarians

So while playing the beta, it's pretty easy to notice that the new Altarian leader, Akari Malara, is blue.

The (possibly temporary) description says that "...the Altarians look exactly like humans." Clearly this is no longer the case.

I'd personally Like a new Altarian leader, one that looks more like their leaders in Galactic Civilizations 1 and 2 to keep in step with the previous games.



As far as Akari Malara is concerned, why not add a new blue skinned civilization for her to be the leader of? She does look really cool and I'd love to see many more factions in this edition, and if possible, by the time all the future expansions come out I'd like to see all the ones from the previous games as well as new ones. (nudge> nudge> wink* wink*)

:grin:

PS: I also noticed that the Iridium Corporation uses an upside-down recoloured Torian symbol and they also somewhat resemble the Korx in concept. I hope that doesn't mean that the Torians and Korx aren't going to show up. They were my favourite and forth favourite races, respectively.

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Reply #1 Top

Death and Korx are dead. Some korx moved into the kyrnn culture and there they fester. Via databanks.

I think blue women in sifi is over done but this is a long standing concept from Brad and elemental so its doable.

BUT!!!! I want...no demand multiple race leaders! Vice presidents or something. Like Lord Kona's lovely daughter. We can see female drengin and get more stuff. That's one dlc I would want.

 

DARCA ;)

Reply #2 Top

It was explained why she looks different than the previous Altarian leaders.

Quoting Frogboy, reply 19
It would be wrong to assume that all Altarians are white, tattooed. It depends which faction is currently supreme. There are actually two other Altarian factions we haven't seen that look quite a bit different too.
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Quoting Frogboy, reply 42
Every world has their own skeletons to deal with. Each has a past that results in very different cultures manifesting.

The Drengin used genetics to create super soldiers Called the Korath.

The Precursors was the name given to a collection of beings not even technically the same species to begin with.

Earth has several political groups largely based in geography and it's military force, over the decade, has splintered off.

The Altarians are made up of several distinct sub races. This should come as no surprise To anyone.  They aren't humans. They simply look human for reasons outlined so e in Altarian Prophecy. the reason different sub races look different differs from race to race; from culture to culture.

To me, the suggestion that we shouldn't allow these civilizations to have different sub cultures or internal divisions strikes me as absurd. Of course there will be vying powers and internal intrigues. we will see them time and time again because sentient beings are messy.

i wouldn't get too uptight about the naming error. we are deep in the sausage factory here. It'll be corrected. Unfortunately, what happened to Elsys is tragic. She won't be coming back. It's not the Altarian Republic, it's the Altarian Resistance. It has been a very dark time.
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Quoting Frogboy, reply 64
Most Altarians aren't blue.  There are light skinned, dark skinned, blue skinned and gray skinned.
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The Torians are being turned into space burgers by the Drengin, and the Korx have been assimilated by the Krynn. Although the Torians might return in a DLC or expansion since they are mentioned in Major Civilizations Unaccounted For, unlike the Drath, Korath or Korx.

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So they're closely related to humans, look the same, but have blue and grey skinned sub-races?



That makes no sense to me, as it seems to contradict itself, but oh well. At least it'll be fun.  |-)

Reply #4 Top

But, but, but...

 

I want my GREEN-skinned space babes!

 

Reply #5 Top

If you want green babies go play the Torians.


... oh.


... I guess you can't.  



Well you can always go play the Arceans. They have green skin too. 




... oh. :rolleyes:

Reply #6 Top

The altarians are based off the races in elemental. There are a blue skinned sub-race of altarians. It is also possible for people to develop blue skin, so it is not far fetched that the leader is blue skinned. This has also been debated in depth in the dev journal introducing this leader.

https://forums.galciv3.com/450612/

Reply #7 Top

Old Altarians are better! Make someone else blue! What happened with all the, "mysterious coincidence" of looking exactly like human beings ? Did they like go : "alright, we had enough of those earthlings! lets be different! Oh, i know! Lets paint our self blue, like in that 20th century Avatar movie, it will confuse the hell out of them." lol  

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Actually since we raising this anyway, the whole story of Altarian survival, against the looming Drengin conquest, i don't buy it. It amounts to magic, may as well have added dragons and the castle of Camelot into that back story; "Hello, Drengi, im the new, blue Altarian leader. Winter is coming! Dun-Dun-Dun" lol

Rewrite it. There could be any number of plausible explanations as to why they survived. Could be, that the last ditch effort of Altarian naval engineers payed off, they built a number of highly advanced vessels of war, tipping the balance of terror in their favor. Altarian core worlds the able to resist seemingly endless tide of Drengi onslaught, destroying two thirds of the Drengi armada. Some of those ships where also lost or damaged, but enough remained to deny any more loss of territory. The Your did not deploy their fleet during this effort, and simply observed Drengi losses. This unnerved Lord Konna, and ordered the remaining fleet back, settling an armistice. He was not about to loose all to the Your, having achieved so much. While Drengi public savored triumphant success, and the aristocracy delighted their guests with select Torrian meals (often the young, Torrian victims are "prepared", with "delicious dressing of eatable leafs, marinated with a thick layer of <Drengin> sauce"  and consumed while still being alive), Lord Konna remained alert. The Your where a worthy challenge in them self, but something bigger seemed to loom just over the horiszon. Or some other kind of story, i'm no writer.

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Quoting parrottmath, reply 6

The altarians are based off the races in elemental. There are a blue skinned sub-race of altarians. It is also possible for people to develop blue skin, so it is not far fetched that the leader is blue skinned. This has also been debated in depth in the dev journal introducing this leader.

https://forums.galciv3.com/450612/
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Wait, what? Elemental and Galactic Civ are having a crossover?



...

Oh dear, you are right. I just had a look at the Fallen Enchantress: Legendary Heroes Myth page: https://www.elementalgame.com/fallen-enchantress/myths

It's definitely a crossover. It's talking about the Dread Lords and the Arnor.

I mean I'm okay with that, but I think that since it came first GC should be influencing Elemental more than the other way around, so I still think that they should make the new Altarian leader look more like the ones in previous games.



...it also makes me regret not buying Elemental yet...

Reply #10 Top

I'm not saying anything against it since this is Brad's work from start to finish and I go by the lore he puts out. ;) He made a fun game to begin with and I suspect that this would be a fun game to end with. I suspect that a DLC would be a leader pack and we may see other Altarian Leaders to appease the masses.

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Quoting MastahJ, reply 8

 Or some other kind of story, i'm no writer.
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Well I am, and its a ok story and it fits nicely with the lore from elemental and what we already know. Bit its always sad to see a unhappy reader. :(

Still anyone that knows mass effect will see a similarity between them and the Asari. Or twi leks from star wars or the navi from avatar or some old star trek episodes. ect. I am also tired of seeing humanoid aliens with curved spines, and no primates or reason why beyond the fact that humans do. So change them up some more, but not to much!

can humans mate with altarians?

 

DARCA. ;)

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Quoting parrottmath, reply 10

I'm not saying anything against it since this is Brad's work from start to finish and I go by the lore he puts out.
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...this does bring up the issue of margaritas coming into play again...

Reply #13 Top

The old Altarians were just humans with face tattoos.  I think the new ones are much more imaginative.

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Quoting parrottmath, reply 6
The altarians are based off the races in elemental.
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I'd say it's rather the other way around. Sounds familiar?  ;)

Quoting MastahJ, reply 7
What happened with all the, "mysterious coincidence" of looking exactly like human beings ?
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Nothing. It's still the case. Take a look at Rhonin's post.

Quoting Lord_Silverkey, reply 9
Wait, what? Elemental and Galactic Civ are having a crossover?
End of Lord_Silverkey's quote

Not really. At least not the way I understand it. Both games take place in the same universe: Elemental is Altaria, only in its distant past. 

Reply #15 Top

You've got all the answers hua bub?!?! Well where were you on February 29 this year!!!

Reply #16 Top

Quoting DARCA1213, reply 15
You've got all the answers hua bub?!?!
End of DARCA1213's quote

No. If I did, my life wouldn't be as bad as it is.

Quoting DARCA1213, reply 15
Well where were you on February 29 this year!!!
End of DARCA1213's quote

There was no 29th February this year, because it's not a leap-year.

Reply #17 Top

Well, I believe that people can become stronger than their weakness. I believe that self hypnotherapy is good. I believe that if you were friends with me on steam we could talk more. :)

 

SF ;)

 

Reply #18 Top

  There is nothing wrong with having blue aliens in the game, or any other color. That im asking for is consistency, while those blue ppl can be another kewl gal civ. Bottom line, i never ever had played none humans in Gal Civ 1 or 2. So for me its purely aesthetic, and lore related interest. To that end, outside of main campaign (and also Drengin, in the Dark Avatar expansion), i never liked vanilla Terrans, and always used a custom made human civilization (Argon Galactic Republic, as i named them). To that end, if Gal Civ 3, includes animated custom human avatar (and possibly a custom home world that we can assign to a custom race, rather then using generic ones), for my AGR faction, it would be dream came true for this game. 

  However, just cause i don't actually play none human, or even none AGR faction, i can still appreciate consistent lore, as well as diversity. I want Altarians to retain their human color, and those awesome tattoos, without a redesign of the species, to a new "brand".  

< PS: Argon Federation ( i twisted the name to Argon Galactic Republic) is not a name i came up with, and is a name for a civilization in X2-X3 Egosoft series, while Galactic Republic portion, is a tribute to Star Wars lore... >

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Quoting MastahJ, reply 18

However, just cause i don't actually play none human, or even none AGR faction, i can still appreciate consistent lore, as well as diversity. I want Altarians to retain their human color, and those awesome tattoos, without a redesign of the species, to a new "brand".  
End of MastahJ's quote

Human people can turn blue from natural ingestion of silver compounds. Why can't the same thing happen to the Altarians? The condition is called Argyria. Thus, there is no reason why they cannot be blue and still be human. I don't see inconsistencies under this paradigm.

Reply #20 Top

How do you know that Argyria is the reason if they aren't even genetically compatible. (even after all this time in the 23# century. :/ )

 

DARCA. ;)