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Reply #176 January 10, 2014 5:40:21 PM
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Unfortunately, I don't think that is possible.

There are several alternate solutions to this issue. 

What could be possible is the ability to build these bases as a prerequisite to build a wonder in general. It won't upgrade from the base building, but automatically be a separate building altogether (similar to how the forge of the overlord works).

One could set up a special resource that each play starts with that is consumed when building the base. A problem falls on the refunding of resources if you decide not to build the the wonder.

One could forgo the only one per faction requirement of the wonder base and allow anyone to build these buildings in all cities.

I haven't found a clean solution to the 'issue'. You could ask yourself two questions when finding a solution here:

What are you trying to accomplish? And why would accomplishing this improve the gameplay?

An answer to the second of these questions will lead to better solutions, because I don't think it is possible to stop the building of the second piece (I recall trying before unsuccessfully (or with undesired results))

Its a shame that you cannot pass a player ability with a building to prevent the building of these bases a second time.

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Reply #177 January 10, 2014 8:22:59 PM
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Quoting parrottmath,
reply 176

Unfortunately, I don't think that is possible.

There are several alternate solutions to this issue. 

What could be possible is the ability to build these bases as a prerequisite to build a wonder in general. It won't upgrade from the base building, but automatically be a separate building altogether (similar to how the forge of the overlord works).

One could set up a special resource that each play starts with that is consumed when building the base. A problem falls on the refunding of resources if you decide not to build the the wonder.

One could forgo the only one per faction requirement of the wonder base and allow anyone to build these buildings in all cities.

I haven't found a clean solution to the 'issue'. You could ask yourself two questions when finding a solution here:

What are you trying to accomplish? And why would accomplishing this improve the gameplay?

An answer to the second of these questions will lead to better solutions, because I don't think it is possible to stop the building of the second piece (I recall trying before unsuccessfully (or with undesired results))

Its a shame that you cannot pass a player ability with a building to prevent the building of these bases a second time.

 

This....could work but its cumbersome. Each wonder-base would have a unique resource. Every sovereign would start off with 1 of each of these unique resources....and thus, once consumed would never be able to build it again. (You'd still see it in the build queue though....could won't be able to build it.)

 

The answer to your questions is in the improvement of the AI not wasting their resources/time/queue....spending 90% of the time for 10% of the effect is not a good use of time. Granted, it may be worth the effort the first time around because they are racing for the final wonder....but I don't know if it would ever be worthwhile the second time around...

 

An alternate way so solve this altogether is to force all wonders to only be placed at the front of a queue line. OR....if you queue a wonder, it's automatically moved to the front. By doing this, you no longer require wonder-bases because the faction is committing to the construction up front...

 

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Reply #178 January 10, 2014 9:06:32 PM
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Quoting GFireflyE,
reply 177
This....could work but its cumbersome. Each wonder-base would have a unique resource. Every sovereign would start off with 1 of each of these unique resources....and thus, once consumed would never be able to build it again. (You'd still see it in the build queue though....could won't be able to build it.)

Problem is that if the wonder is destroyed for any reason, you would never be able to rebuild the wonder.

Quoting GFireflyE,
reply 177
The answer to your questions is in the improvement of the AI not wasting their resources/time/queue....spending 90% of the time for 10% of the effect is not a good use of time. Granted, it may be worth the effort the first time around because they are racing for the final wonder....but I don't know if it would ever be worthwhile the second time around...

I suppose I could set the AI priority to not build these bases when the main wonder has already been built. I'll look into setting up some GLOBAL unit-stats, but I'm not sure I can find such a GLOBAL stat. Although, if they built the wonder themselves, I'm sure I could create a stat that is given when you build the wonder that will set the worth it to build calculation to 0. But I'd have to see if that would work.

Quoting GFireflyE,
reply 177
An alternate way so solve this altogether is to force all wonders to only be placed at the front of a queue line. OR....if you queue a wonder, it's automatically moved to the front. By doing this, you no longer require wonder-bases because the faction is committing to the construction up front...

I really don't think I can rewrite the program to get this to work.

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Reply #179 January 13, 2014 8:21:14 AM
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Quoting parrottmath,
reply 178
Problem is that if the wonder is destroyed for any reason, you would never be able to rebuild the wonder.

While it has never worked this way in this series of games, I would argue that this is what I would typically expect, and is more "realistic" to boot.

That said, I don't think it's worth the hassle that GFireFly's implementation requires; none of the wonders in this game are really game-changing.  The only one that I get super jazzed about is the Great Mill, as more production always = Good, especially early - but even that one's effect is quickly swamped by other effects later in the game.  I never get the sinking feeling that I get in the Civilization line of games when e.g. a rival faction builds the Pyramids.

What would be more interesting to me would be improved wonders that actually Make a Real Difference (tm).  But then you'd have to prioritize them higher to avoid the human player building all of them and running away with the game (even more than per usual.)

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Reply #180 May 8, 2014 3:34:56 PM
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Currently working on adding skeletal pedestrians. Need to update the 80+ tiles with the pedestrians I've made and will soon have an undead empire using skeletons instead of the fallen people. Unfortunately, I was unable to get Banshee's to work. But skeletons are a go. For people looking to see what I've been doing lately. I'll be going through my mods and updating them shortly with all the updates.

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Reply #181 May 8, 2014 4:57:55 PM
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Quoting parrottmath,
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Currently working on adding skeletal pedestrians. Need to update the 80+ tiles with the pedestrians I've made and will soon have an undead empire using skeletons instead of the fallen people. Unfortunately, I was unable to get Banshee's to work. But skeletons are a go. For people looking to see what I've been doing lately. I'll be going through my mods and updating them shortly with all the updates.

sweet...

 

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Reply #182 July 11, 2014 11:57:32 AM
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Good Morning Parrotmath.

Playing a game and noticed that the queue icon for the Pitch Pit is simply a whitish-grey circle. Is this suppose to be the case?

edit: The Swamp Garden queue icon works as it should.

 

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Reply #183 July 12, 2014 10:14:54 PM
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It shouldn't be a whitish-grey circle. I'll take a look at it.

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Reply #184 July 16, 2014 9:53:00 PM
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If you would be willing to enlighten me:

Will Sion's stay alive forever just like Henchmen do?

Does your Henchmen May Die mod include Sion's in the code?

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Reply #185 July 16, 2014 11:42:14 PM
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Quoting parrottmath,
reply 183

It shouldn't be a whitish-grey circle. I'll take a look at it.

In addition, in the Hiergamenon, the Pitch Pit does not have any image associated with it whereas the Swamp Garden does.

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Reply #186 February 26, 2015 10:17:05 PM
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Hello good folks. I'm firing up LH after quite a big break, and I am wondering if any of the mods listed in the op are incompatible with the latest LH version (1.8 iirc)

 

Also, how does mod compatibility work in lh? Are mods only incompatible if they edit the same class/xml? If so can you merge the 2 files and have them work?

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Reply #187 March 1, 2015 3:27:22 PM
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Not to speak for parrotmath, but as far as I know they should all work with LH 1.8.

Generally speaking mods are only incompatible if they modify the same stuff. But there could be cases where other incompatibilities arise. Best case is to ask specifics on the discussion belonging to the mod creator.

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Reply #188 March 12, 2015 12:39:31 PM
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Thanks davrovana. He is correct in that incompatibilities arise when they alter the same files. Most of my work here does not cause conflict with LH 1.8.

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Reply #189 January 22, 2016 7:48:27 PM
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Are all of these mods still compatible with the latest version of the game, LH 2.0 ?

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Reply #190 January 23, 2016 5:09:12 PM
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Quoting GFireflyE,
reply 189


Are all of these mods still compatible with the latest version of the game, LH 2.0 ?

Only parrotmath can give the final word, of course. But I use Riverbridge and snaking with LH 2.0, no observed issues.

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Reply #191 March 9, 2016 2:13:36 AM
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I haven't updated these mods in awhile and would have to check to see if they work out.

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