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My stupid high ping

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Ive posted this more often, in different threads but im just kinda pissed at how i cant play this game normally.

The problem, as the title would have you know, is my ping. In lobby it might sit at a nice 40-100 ping which is nice and playable... Once i get into a game it shoots up to 1000+, making me piss off every person currently trying to play.

 

My connection is stable, my ping in other online games hardly ever exceeds 50 (EU based atleast. might reach a 100 in us).

I dont know if its the P2P system they got. I believe supreme commander was p2p aswell and i played that from release till months after the expansion i have had 0 complaints about my ping in that period of time.

 

My setup.. I have a modem which also functions as a router. Ports forwarded to my network ip. Firewalls completely down. My upload clocks in at around .86 Mb/s (Not sure if thisd might be the case, but it worked for 1 3v3 ).  So far i have played 3 successfull games of which 1 was a 3V3 and the other 2 2V2s. played them both with a constant ping of 100 and it was smooth gameplay

 

So can anyone tell me why it would seem i CAN have a decent enough connection in those 2 games, and the 50 odd other games i tried all end in utter lagspike hell.

 

None of the updates have helped me so far, and ive been really looking out to get this game since first i heared from it. Im pretty dissapointed i cant enjoy it online (seriously the AI gameplay is stupid). I cant really continue to test out my connection because every time i play a game i will piss off more and more people with my connection problems.

 

So please.. hear my cry for help. Am i doomed to play dumb AI...

 

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Reply #26 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Dead, reply 25
Hmmm, did anyone noticed when i've said that, in my case, Demigod WORKS* on a 0.36 Mb/s upload connections and DOESN'T WORK* on a 0.90Mb/s upload connection?

*works= doesn't spikes in any game

*doesn't work=spikes in games larger than 3v3

 

SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A LOW BANDWIDTH PROBLEM! It's not that simple so stop talking about facts and shit.
End of Dead's quote

 

It is to dood. JUST because for you it isn't doesnt mean it isn't for majority of users. You aren't everyone so .. CHEA!



Quoting ZehDon, reply 24

Quoting Makerz, reply 23You don't have the "minimum" to play. Now go ahead and flame me sure but ... sorry i am just pointing out PURE facts and this time ... surprisingly ... not trying to be a douchebag.
If you'd read down the Wiki page you copies and pasted from, you'd have read this lovely little gem:

The Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) has defined broadband as 256 kbit/s in at least one direction and this bit rate is the most common baseline that is marketed as "broadband" around the world. There is no specific bitrate defined by the industry, however, and "broadband" can mean lower-bitrate transmission methods.

Being as this game is sold internationally, the American definition means nothing. In my experience, Broadband is a term simply used to describe Internet Connections faster than Dial-Up Internet. If Demigod required a specific connection speed to experience a playable game when using the product as advertised - 5v5 Player-V-Player Mutliplayer - this speed should have been disclosed to the customer in much the same way as CPU or Video Card requirements are disclosed.
End of ZehDon's quote

 

Ah yeah that is true. For the rest of the world but i coulda swore they were gonna release other Demigod (for other regions of the world).


So other people in other countries buying Demigod when its an american game .... DOESNT MEAN that Demigod went by the OECD and said "256 kbit" is broadband.

 

American = AMERICAN.

American = while the United States FCC, as of 2008, defines broadband as anything above 768 kbit/s.

Reply #27 from Demigod Forums Top

Oh also one more tid-bit for dead...

 

Yeah that is prob a ISP issue. But ive seen kids that have a upload of 15kb/sec and ive seen screenshots of people using bandwidth monitor pushing 35-40+ on 4v4/5v5.

 

SO um chea.

 

 

Edit: Actually nm. Your right dead ... your all right. Im sick of attempting to help people and everyone just getting all pist off saying thats not it. So fook it.

What should i do instead of helping hmm ... HAHA I CAN PLAY U CANT. There we go. <_<

Multiplicity - Control multiple PCs using one keyboard and mouse
Reply #28 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Makerz, reply 1
So other people in other countries buying Demigod when its an american game .... DOESNT MEAN that Demigod went by the OECD and said "256 kbit" is broadband.

American = AMERICAN.

American = while the United States FCC, as of 2008, defines broadband as anything above 768 kbit/s.
End of Makerz's quote

I'd like to point out you completely missed the point of my post. Please re-read it. The word 'America' has nothing to do with the issue here, because the game is sold internationally, and regardless of where it was developed by meeting the minimum system requirements we're guaranteed a playable game experience by Gas Powered Games' own Gamers Bill of Rights as well as the literal definition of 'Minimum Requirements'. My computer vastly exceeds the recommended specifications and I have a Broadband Internet Connection, as stated on the box, and I'm now told I shouldn't expect a playable game experience. If a particular speed of connection was required, it should have been advertised just like all the other requirements. This is the plain and simple truth.

Hopefully patch 1.01 reduces the required bandwidth by the advertised amount so that the people, myself included, who can't currently play are able to. I'd still like to know how it uses so much bandwidth, it really does puzzle me...

Reply #29 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting ZehDon, reply 3


I'd like to point out you completely missed the point of my post. Please re-read it. .
End of ZehDon's quote

 

You missed mine to!

 

Quoting Makerz, reply 2
Oh also one more tid-bit for dead...

Edit: Actually nm. Your right dead ... your all right. Im sick of attempting to help people and everyone just getting all pist off saying thats not it. So fook it.

What should i do instead of helping hmm ... HAHA I CAN PLAY U CANT. There we go.
End of Makerz's quote

Reply #30 from Demigod Forums Top

Either your point was to be a pretentious ass-clown, or it simply escapes me. Could you please explain it, loud and clear?

Reply #31 from Demigod Forums Top

I'm still seeing people making games with stupid stuff in the title like 'No wireless'

I wish people would learn a thing or two about latency, broadband and the game in general before acting like morons. Might save them from advertising to everyone how ignorant they are.

 

Quoting Makerz, reply 1

American = while the United States FCC, as of 2008, defines broadband as anything above 768 kbit/s.
End of Makerz's quote

When requirements such as 768kbps are put up they refer to download speed. Which, in this game, is not the bone of contention.

The average connection for most people is hovering at around 5mb/s on the download and the upload remains below 1mb/s. Or, at least it is in the UK and US.

 

Of course once you meet the bandwidth requirement of the game you also need a ping that doesn't fluctuate wildly or remain.. say.. above 400ms. The speed of your connection, by the way, has NOTHING to do with your latency in most cases. (I get roughly 450-500kbps yet my ping times are consistently 50 to 150ms lower than results 100m up the road in my work. My work has a connection capable of upwards of 3MB/s on the upload side alone but due to the network being rather bloated and going through multiple proxies the ping times are terribad and playing games just isnt going to happen)

 

Seriously though.. can people just stop running around spouting crap like 'OMG YOUR PING IS 200ms. YOU ARE GOING TO KILL OUR MATCH QQQQQQQQ' I had one guy accuse me of lagging us out with a ping of 180 and a sim speed of 8 playing at 3840x1024 with 16x AA and maxed settings on my graphics card/in game... Yeah.. I was lagging you bro, sorry.

 

[Edit]

It isn't ridiculous. I don't see how so many people on these forums have such crap internet. My internet is the basic from comcast and i pull 30Mb-down , 4-5Mb/sec up ... $55 a month internet a-go-go?
End of quote

 

For a start your using a cable provider which typically offer better speeds than others but is limited to where the cable coverage is (and also additionally in the UK the telephone exchange needs to be LLU enabled which means our telecom giant BT has to have allowed 3rd party providers the ability to install their own equipment into the exchange).

but tbh what you said there just stinks and the only thing you do is to prove that sometimes stereotypes are, in fact, correct.

 

[edit2]

 

Meh, changed some wording.. tired and probably sounded a bit off. Apologies.

Reply #32 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Makerz, reply 1
It is to dood. JUST because for you it isn't doesnt mean it isn't for majority of users. You aren't everyone so .. CHEA!
End of Makerz's quote

I never said that IT IS THE ONLY CAUSE. I've said that low bandwidth is not likely the cause and certanly it's not the only cause. And if you really want to help people, maybe you should first try to read what they are saying. The OP (Ceeshond) clearly said that he has 0.86 Mb/s (that's 880 kb/sec), so it shouldn't be a problem.

I'm sick and tired of people telling me that's because my connection is crappy (ie low upload and dnl speed), when it's not the case...

Reply #33 from Demigod Forums Top

Yes, remember that saying "Well this is the problem for most people, but not you, OP!" does not, in fact, help the OP, and thus hardly contributes to the thread. While I may have legitamate concerns about my upload rate (.41 mb/s), many people who do not have such a connection exhibit the same problem, and thus it is clear that there are other factors at work. As the OP is one of these people, the purpose of this thread is to help THEM.

 

Ghost, if you could somehow run it from someone else's house who is using the same provider... I dunno, might make something interesting. Did you already do that? i r sleepy...

Reply #34 from Demigod Forums Top

Already done that. Different PC, same provider, different cable net package (cheaper and slower than mine), still spikes. But with a different provider, even with one that has much slower upload speed than mine, doesn't spikes. So in my case i think it's something the ISP does, but i don't know what, as all my games work fine and also my torrents. And if this happens to me, maybe others are in this situation too. But not all. Maybe for some of them is the slow connection to blame. But i don't think it's the OP's cause of the problem.

Reply #35 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Dead, reply 7

I never said that IT IS THE ONLY CAUSE. I've said that low bandwidth is not likely the cause and certanly it's not the only cause. And if you really want to help people, maybe you should first try to read what they are saying. The OP (Ceeshond) clearly said that he has 0.86 Mb/s (that's 880 kb/sec), so it shouldn't be a problem.

I'm sick and tired of people telling me that's because my connection is crappy (ie low upload and dnl speed), when it's not the case...
End of Dead's quote

 

And i never said it was the only cause either. You shouldn't just jump down peoples fucking throats because they try and help you.


IM SORRY we say its your connection what else do you want me to do? Where do you live? Ill come over and beat ur ISP UP? Idk what else you want from people ... they are tossing out ideas and thats all they can do. You don't like the answer? OH WELL. QQ TO STARDOCK/GPG then.


I don't fucking work for them im just a tech guy trying to help you and your just pist off at the answer everyone gives and im sorry thats the only EXPLANATION we can give. Other than that all i can say is ...

 

GG ur ISP sucks and you can't play. That better?
OR GG any ISP you try sucks .. or maybe god just hates you? Idk. Like i said fuck it .. ppl are just to pissy now-a-days. Enjoy not playing. >_>

Reply #36 from Demigod Forums Top

.............Like i've said, before trying to "help" people, read their post more carefully. The OP and i don't have a slow connection, it's way beyond the 256kb/s limit. The rest of your post is just trolling. GG to you too, sir.

Reply #37 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Dead, reply 11
.............Like i've said, before trying to "help" people, read their post more carefully. The OP and i don't have a slow connection, it's way beyond the 256kb/s limit. The rest of your post is just trolling. GG to you too, sir.
End of Dead's quote

 

I guess so. SO like i said fuck you to :).

 

And idc im sad for you. Having to pay for that shit of a connection. Oh well i can go back to playing and DLing at 2MB/sec with mine. Haha to you good sir ^_^'

Reply #38 from Demigod Forums Top

Makerz is just being a douce at this point.

Reply #39 from Demigod Forums Top

Makerz, that 256kb/s was just the minimum uploading speed. But you didn't read that too, so what's the point telling you this, when all you know is to insult people. You have trouble understanding what i say, i'll explain again, but somehow i think this is futile:

I've said that in my case is 99% an ISP problem, but not because low bandwidth, but because of something else the ISP is doing. I don't know what. And since the OP said his upload speed was good (enough for the game), i've suggested to look over my case and see if it's similar. I've tried two ISPs and the one that doesn't spike is the one with a much slower upload speed. So in my case it can't be because of insufficient upload bandwidth speed. But no, you came here and say that is definitely because of a slow connection and that's that. I bet you don't even know how much bandwidth DG consumes in 4v4 or 5v5 matches, because you never bothered to check...Whatever, i think i'm wasting my time here with you. You can flame me now, it's what you do best.

Reply #40 from Demigod Forums Top

This problem persists through 1.01. Hope Stardock and GPG can find a way to work on it soon.

Reply #41 from Demigod Forums Top

The problem isnt as bad for me post 1.01

 

3v3 actually works now

4v4 still ping spikes

 

 

I'm gonna be cautious and pre play any further stardock/gpg ventures. 

 

Reply #42 from Demigod Forums Top

Has anyone found a solution as of late?