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January 21, 2005 3:46:03 AM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums
I found this on another forum I belong to. Enjoy!
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Reply #1 January 21, 2005 5:26:59 AM
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cool.........
but i'll keep smoking anyway....sorry
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Reply #2 January 21, 2005 7:25:21 AM
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Reply #3 January 21, 2005 8:11:08 AM
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Yes, smoking might kill you. So does cars and weapons, but you dont see big fat warning lables on those.....
Nor do you see multi-million bucks advertizing campaigns against cars or guns....

A bit unfair if you ask me - I mean.... smoking is "self inflicted" harm.
You cant say the same about being run over by a car or get shot down by some triggerhappy person.

Well... like it or not but thats just my personal view!
(And yes, I do smoke and own a car (but wont ever buy a weapon))

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Reply #4 January 21, 2005 9:04:48 AM
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That's probably because with cars it's a side effect and guns are supposed to kill people. Smoking on the other hand is purely destructive behaviour which serves no purpose whatsoever.

And it wouldn't be so bad if it would just affect the smoker (if you want to destroy your health, go ahead), but smoke has the tendency to float around, so it becomes a choice between either breathing and inhaling cancerous fumes or not breathing at all.

Bytheway, why is this thread posted under "internet"?
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Reply #5 January 21, 2005 2:54:51 PM
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Essencay lights up another camel and savors every bit of it
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Reply #6 January 21, 2005 2:55:51 PM
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Also, the gun and car don't have chemical that MAKE you use them. Cancer sticks does.
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Reply #7 January 21, 2005 5:44:23 PM
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every heard of fuel, Rolf? Wont get far in a car without it (unless its on altervative fuel)
Quite a stinker.... not to mention the polution
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Reply #8 January 21, 2005 8:19:39 PM
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Essencay has the right idea
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Reply #9 January 21, 2005 8:29:59 PM
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Smokers are the most selfish people on the planet. They don't care who they harm as long as they can satisfy their addiction. That's what it is - a drug addiction. The smoker harms themselves (they deserve the lung cancer, and any other crap they get), but also, they harm everyone around them. Sorry to sound bitter about that last point, but I had to undergo emergency heart surgery due to passive smoking. Cheers mates - I owe you one
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Reply #10 January 21, 2005 8:48:49 PM
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yeah...that was probably it....
that seems a bit strange to me fuzzy.......
never heard that before.....
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Reply #11 January 21, 2005 9:01:50 PM
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* DoctorNick will NEVER smoke...

No, it's definitely NOT cool in my book...so why not? Well, this is what I see as the "results" of smoking: life-threatening illnesses AND the fact that smoking shortens your life by...10 years (maybe?) Heh...I guess I'm really not your average teen then, huh?
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Reply #12 January 21, 2005 9:34:47 PM
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Essencay has the right idea


Actually I don't. That was a really piss-poor attempt of humor on my part. DoctorNick has the right idea. If I could go back to 22 years ago and never had started I would. I've tried cutting back, quitting cold turkey, hypnosis, the patch, nicorette gum and spending $250 on a 4-week course to learn about cigarettes and nicotine addiction as well as how to quit. Nothing has worked, though the class did work the best, I quit for a month . I've spent probably well over $15,000 on cigarettes and at $28 a carton now, continue to tack on another $1500 a year. That's only the obvious financial cost, without getting into the other costs, financial, physical, mental and social, both for yourself and your families.
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Reply #13 January 21, 2005 11:00:25 PM
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I quit in '91. My sister didn't. She died last year from lung cancer. Not a pretty site. Ever see someone when their body is racked like a spasm just to try to take a breath; and that's hooked up to oxygen. I understand the addiction, cause I've been there. I don't understand the shortsightedness of someone who does not want to quit.

Everyone quits, it's just a matter of how. Gasping for their last breath. or cold turkey with a little bit of grit and determination.
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Reply #14 January 22, 2005 1:41:18 AM
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I started sneaking my Dad's Camels when I was ten years old. By 14 I was smoking a pack a day, by 22 years it was 2 packs a day, and I loved every one of them. At the age of 31, when my (then) 5 year old son asked me how old he had to be before he could smoke, well, I knew it was time to face up to my own hypocrisy. That was 7 years ago, and I haven't had a puff of smoke since. One of the few good decisions I've made in my life.
After three major coronary surguries in less than two years, my Dad has finally put away the smokes. He smoked from 14 years old until 59. I'm just glad he was able to quit before it got as bad as it does for some.
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Reply #15 January 22, 2005 5:04:04 AM
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Actually, Essencay - it was for me, too. Ive tried quitting/buying stuff to help me as well. I had my 1st in 8th grade, but actually started my Sophomore year. I was quite successful in quitting during 3 months of boot camp, though! MCT rolled around and that was the end of that. Didnt ever slow me down, though, because my best 3-mile time in the fleet was 22m flat (hey, I ran sprints in HS and was quite fast att). Ive smoked a pack a day since I started, but at any rate it'll catch up to me later.
YES, everyone (here) who's against it is right! Sleeping Dragons insight is quite scary. Whats also scary is that Ive seen people who were able to kick drugs but not kick cigs - and cigs are legal.
My gf's sister was born with CF and, uh...boy. She cant quit that! This affects me quite a bit, because Im choosing to do this to myself. Sad.

This wasnt the direction I was hoping for in posting the animation, but hey.
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Reply #16 January 22, 2005 6:11:49 AM
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Smokers are the most selfish people on the planet. They don't care who they harm as long as they can satisfy their addiction.


That's bull and a totally unfair generalisation. I've never smoked in public areas, I don't smoke in the company of non-smokers, hell, I don't even smoke inside my own appartment. While there are inconsiderate smokers, that holds true for any number of behaviours, not necessairly limited to blowing smoke in somebody's face.

On a brighter note, I've set April 29th as my quit date. It's my gf's birthday and I promised to quit as a present for her. Seeing I'm not the type of a person to break a promise...here's hoping quit attempt number 8 will be the final one, at least this time the motivation is definitely there
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Reply #17 January 22, 2005 8:25:45 AM
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I didn't mean to offend anyone who smokes. So many try to quit and find it the hardest thing in life to do. It was for me, too. I couldn't quit quitting. I would throw my smokes in a garbage dumpster at night. In the morning I would jump in to get them out.

But "life" wants to fight to stay around. We should help it if we can, until the decision is not in our hands.
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Reply #18 January 23, 2005 1:32:14 AM
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Well, I'll tell you this. I smoked a pipe for about 20 years or so, and when we found out my Moms Cancer was malignant, I quit. That was 3 years ago. My Mother smoked for 38 years, and died from Lung Cancer, that spread to her liver, and throughout her body. Most folks around here know she passed away, recently (about 9 months now.) I and my Father worked with her all the way through Chemotherapy. I will tell you this much, you do not want to go out that way. Trust me when I tell you it was painfull, and unpleasant. Once you get to a certain point, there is no way you can take care of your self, and your family has to do it for you. No matter how much you love your Parents, it is a bad situation to find yourself in. The only thing that makes it bearable (sp?) in the end is Morphine. My Mom paid the price for smoking, and never complained once,never cried about it being unfair, or all that crap... She told me she knew, what the results where of her smoking, and she had chances to quit and didn't, and it killed her DEAD. So, if you want to DIE, light up another, and PLEASE have one with my Mom when you see her, and tell her I miss her and that I said "Hi." For those that want to quit, do this (only if other methods do not work) Try switching to a pipe, and only buy your tobacco from a actual pipe shop, (no drugstore, or prepackaged flavoured crap from the five and dime, they contain chemicals the same as Cigarrettes.) Once you ween yourself from the chemicals in Cigarettes and are smoking something that is Tobacco Only, it will be alot easier to quit, cold turkey. Just lay the pipe down. Real tobacconist kow that pipe tobacco contains nowhere near as much nicotine as Cigarrettes, and none of the harsh chemicals, that come along with the addiction. Do not fool yourselves, though it's still smoking, and harmfull. I think that is one of the reasons I was able to quit smoking so easily, and my wife will verify I always had a pipe going around here. I went through about a pound of tobacco a week. I still have my pipes in my cedar chest,and when I get old and dotterly and do not give a crap about life anymore, perhaps I'll take them out. until then..well we'll just leave them in the chest. But don't think I wouldn't mind having a pipe right now. hahahahaha!!1
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Reply #19 January 23, 2005 2:32:07 AM
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Old Crab sits back, takes out his pipe, stuffs it with Latakia, chars and relights it, and enjoys it. Now, for everyone who doesn't smoke fine. Don't breathe in. Yes smoking kills you and me and everybody around you. (As if everyone lives forever) But I'm going to enjoy my life my way and if people don't like it.......tough.
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Reply #20 January 23, 2005 5:00:02 AM
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All things in moderation...
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Reply #21 January 23, 2005 9:01:29 AM
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Now I don't want you folks to misconstrue my intentions. I quit out of defference to my Mum, and to make it easier on her, as she had quit also, if not for the closeness of the dreaded "C" in my family, I probably would still be smoking to this day. Heck my Cousins, that are actually like my Mums, other 2 sons still dip, snuff. even after watching what happened to her, and their father (my mums executor) continues. I know a person is either going to or not going to, quit. I won't harp on them to do so. My wifes Mother is going through issues right now, related to smoking. She's diabetic and would fight the devil for a cigarette, and keeps getting infections in her foot, and the doctor says it is directly related to the smoking (effecting her circulation) and the end point is about every 3 or 4 months, they chop something off. Right now she has 3 little piggies, that have gone to market and not come back.


Old Crab has my number exactly. Started my day with a tin of Dunhill Early Morning, Moved to 965 in the afternoon,
and MacBarens Scottish Mixture in the Evening or Golden Symphony, or maybe some Virgina Slices. Topped off with a Arturo Fuente Cigar for the Evening Capper. See I don't miss my Pipes...
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Reply #22 January 23, 2005 5:20:20 PM
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Alright, I chewed Red Man for about 4 months once - then went back to smoking. Heck, I even tried dipping Copenhagen one day...till I swallowed it . Cant stand the smell of pipes or cigars, though. Sometimes not even cigarettes!?

*someone trying to tell me something??*
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Reply #23 January 23, 2005 6:32:48 PM
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Sleeping Dragon, I experienced the same thing you did with your sister, except it was with my Mom. Watching someone you love take a breath, and then not take another one for 60 seconds, and then not take another one for 90 seconds, and then 2 minutes, and as each breath becomes nore shallow than the last, is the most devastating thing one can watch a loved one do as they pass away. My mom passed away from complications of her heart because from smoking 3 packs of Salems a day for 50 years. My mom passed away 5 years ago this last Thanksgiving and I miss her terribly. What I can't let go of the most, is the vision of her gasping for those last breaths.

I also smoked for about 20 years. I quit when I had my children. I was desparate to give them a fighting chance at life.
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Reply #24 January 23, 2005 7:43:39 PM
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Smoking is wrong, but vodka and other strong liquors (and beer for that matter) aren't, because getting wasted is a good thing.
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Reply #25 January 23, 2005 7:53:16 PM
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Thanks for sharing that, Donna.
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