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It does for me!  I think we're on opposite ends of the patience spectrum.

To me, the way to get a huge lead is to play 1% more efficiently than the other guy(s), and compound that over 50-100 turns.  Then I do have a huge lead.  And I know where it came from, and I can reliably do it again.

If you're clicking End Turn every 2 seconds(!!!), anything you get from that will probably be only equal to what the AIs are getting.  So your lead, relative to them, is maybe zero.  (Actually, with smart enough AIs, they would all have a huge lead over you.)  I agree wholeheartedly that micro sucks, and the current micro-management tools (through Beta 3) are nil.  But ignoring it completely is not really sufficient grounds to claim that the techs are underpowered.

Sorry to see you go, this is a beta release and I would expect that the tech tree will auto fill to the next one down the tree after you complete one in the future, so if you want to continue down the tree it will keep going.

As far as the second point the techs are not 90% useless, they all help you to reach your goal and allows you to pick your rewards from a wide range of possible options. 

Galactic Civilizations II was just like this and was great and auto continued to next tech which is why I expect this will eventually.

I completely disagree, I would much rather have it continue the way it is with auto continue down the tech path, or que techs similar to the build que, either way.

Plus/minus 10% does make a difference, you just don't see it...  Attempt to play a game to get to a certain point, first researching the % bonuses and then don't research any % bonuses and you'll realize you'll be a lot further researching them.

This game is about conquering the galaxy through research/conquest/assension/influence your choice.  But you don't have to use military force if you don't want to.

I don't mind this but would be nice to have a que or auto move to next.

Can't wait

With the first point I would not to few techs I don't see them. I would say that tech research could always be made better though. I think the game would be better if instead the air could keep up. Is there a setting to change the research speed in the game yet. Auto continue may not be a good idea if it takes control away from your tech researching. I at least would want to know when I was done researching, so I could pick the tech if I want to. 

Multiplayer games, 9/10 by turn 80 i've 400 to 600 power ahead of them, my home planet is putting 70hammer and 60research with 90-100 approval... The techs just require understanding and build order practice.

make some suggestions in a thread. Don't wait for someone to implement it for you. Ask questions if you need help understanding the   ech tree format & construction.    hink about the goals you want to meet and what needs to happen to make them get met while still keeping the ame from being broken. Think about the mpaxt of your changes.

the zml files will almost certainly be updated as builds are released  owards final release making a I'll mod silly  right now... But trying concepts should be easy.

+1

it is as much a strategy game as a shoot-em-up. I play it from a different direction and have done several games (10-12 hours long) through where I have not fired a shot. In a way it is like chess; you have an overriding strategy for victory and you have individual choices to make on each planet. I usually limit myself to a dozen planets colonized and about half as many starbases. I constantly am balancing the spending vs. technologies/developments of both the bigger goals and the pace of the individual planets. When I find one that is my best choice as technological or manufacturing or financial or trade capitals I pursue that goal for that planet.

It ends up that I have my spending circle pushed all the way down to 0% savings so everything should be spent on tech/military and I am still accumulating $2000-$10000 per turn in excess wealth that I need to burn through periodically by just going through my planetary list and buying whatever is on the construction schedule. When a planet is idle, with all useful squares assigned to something I then go back and shape the list; looking for those squares where a research cloister or colonial bank is a better choice than what I had first put in that area. All the time, building those interrelationships between the squares, to make the planet the most productive it can be.

I would be slaughtered in a blood-sport of open warfare but I play to avoid warfare, or at least to shape it to my enemies so they are fighting each other, depleting their resources. 

The only difference I remember between civilization and galactic civilization tech wise is that in civilization you have  multiple paths to each tech. I would like to see more meaningful techs only techs could always be better. I like a lot of techs. Abilities instead of numbers would be fine as long as that doesn't mean I will add the numbers, and just don't tell you what they are. Otherwise how will I know how much an ability affects me. All a little increase means I need more tech is fine.

Perhaps one new race could operate like this, it'd make for an interesting game.

A scavenging or pirate type race, or it could be an option at game start for everyone.

Scavenging or Pirate type race

Increased chance to find techs from anomalies.
Player picks a tier or age of tech and gets a random one from anywhere across that tier or age.
Slower research overall. -20% Research Speed
Increased weight to tech trading with other races, great hagglers.
Opportunity to Raid enemy planets/research labs for Tech
Ability to setup outposts rather than planets, uses the dead worlds.
Ability to blockade or ambush trade routes for cash. (They don't have traders, their traders syphon money from existing routes)
Increased regular colony costs, production and maintenance +100%, while outposts are uneffected. 
+25% Increase to ship speed and range. 

I'd like to see the stacked techs be exclusive from one another. You need to make choices, not just have three techs in the same place.

As I put in the other thread.

Same amount of techs, changing some to be 'techs' components/buildings/starbase stuff etc rather than bonuses and a longer research time.

Make each research tech take longer to get, at the moment it's too fast, give that decision more weight rather than just oh I get another tech in 2 turns anyway who cares. There is no problem having a lot of techs, this is a good thing in a longer game, however there is a problem if they are all the same and they come every other turn.

An alternative Suggestion:

Bonus techs could be invested into, so you could just keep your research going into them to achieve bigger and bigger bonuses, but the player isn't bothered with this every 3 turns. All those sub techs are instead put into a few research options that can just be continually invested into for small returns, .1% a turn or some such (you can cap this by tech age)


 

I don't like the current tech system. I always go directly to the tree to make my choices.

I understand they are going to change the tech set-up and I look forward to that, but for god's sake don't give me 40-50 turn techs. I hate slow tech. With research expansion as the game goes along the techs should average about 10-15 turns each. A queue will be great. That is really all I need

There will be an option to slow down or speed up techs and I want to be playing on normal most of the time.

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