check out pandora

You will shell out a bit of money, but the gold edition is 50% off on steam atm, along with the expansion brave new world. It would be around $40 to get them both while on sale. Keep in mind that they might go on sale for more tomorrow or the next day since they are having autumn sales until the 3rd. Gold edition contains the following:

Sid Meier's Civilization® V, Sid Meier’s Civilization® V: Babylon (Nebuchadnezzar II), Civilization V: Cradle of Civilization - Mediterranean, Civilization V: Cradle of Civilization - Asia, Civilization V: Cradle of Civilization - Americas, Civilization V: Cradle of Civilization - Mesopotamia, Double Civilization and Scenario Pack: Spain and Inca , Civilization and Scenario Pack: Polynesia, Civilization and Scenario Pack: Denmark - The Vikings, Civilization V: Explorer’s Map Pack, Civilization V - Civilization and Scenario Pack: Korea, Civilization V - Wonders of the Ancient World Scenario Pack, Sid Meier's Civilization V - Gods and Kings.

I believe the only important thing missing is Brave New World. As mentioned earlier Gold is $25 and BNW is $15.

I played Civ5 and loved the new combat but civ4 was still better with everything else. one thing i hate about civ5 is how the mods work and the multiplayer, can't use mods for it and can't have more ai then the preset stuff.

In the end it wasn't historical enough for me ended up playing paradox games.

Civ 5 with both expansions is really great game. Much better then it used to at release. Too bad, that you can not use mods in MP and AI in multiplayer do not contact you like in SP. Those are only two problems for me with it. It is really great.

 

I could never get into endless space. And I have it aswell. It did not feel like a game to me, for some reasons. Could not stick with it. 

 

Pandora does looks good. Havent played it, but from the pictures it looks like sci fi, civ 5 with less options. But that is just my guess, did not pay attention to it much.

 

I quiete liked Armada 2526 with expansion, but a lot of people did not. AI is good enough and it is easy and fast to play, yet still deep enough. Thats what I like about it.

... there's always x'mas sales

forgot to say.. 75% off for civ on steam..

Go for civ series.

Endgame in Endless Space is really poor, basically stick as many guns as you can onto your ship. If it can fit in 100 guns? Good, now you'll kill every ship you'll ever see. No amount of defenses will beat that. My poor 100k hp dreads The moment I realized that glass ships is king, the quicker I quit Endless Space. Which is kinda funny because I managed to win on my first playthrough, I overwhelmed everyone with my tanky fleets. Then second playthrough I found out about glass ships. pFfft.

Damn you for telling me about Pandora. It looks pretty cool. *sigh* nother game on my wishlist. 

I did not like civ5, cannot remember why, something spooked me about it when i first played it.

Civ 4 is brilliant but also disappointing at the same time. They came up with a fantastic unit promotion system in this game but you need to reload allot keep it interesting, otherwise you will lose all your best units in no time. If i had a dollar for every time i lost a unit when the odds were supposedly 99% in its favor..... (But this was fixed in Civ 5)

Civ 3 is what i would call the best of the series, (not withstanding the sleepy AI) but in actual fact, i tend to play civ 2 the most!

Probably last played it 4 or 5 months ago?

As for trying not to reload, well no one likes wasting time reloading! But 'Time' is the deciding factor for me.... being a family man i do not get so much time for gaming, so if i have invested allot of my valuable time doing something in a game and it goes wrong and sets me back, i really do have to reload (unless i find the new situation interesting enough to be worth the wasted time).

Haha, after what I just said I jumped into Civ5. My settler unit started in a jungle I move out I burn a whole turn of movement moving two hexes up a mountain...right next to a barb camp. Then I loose my settler unit as well and then my initial warrior trying to free it. How embarassing. 

I have about 1200 hours between Civ 4 and Civ 5. I was laughing when that happened. 

Reading another thread, i was reminded what destroyed Civ5 for me.... the tile unit limit!!!!

I did love the game for a while at first, and the tile unit limit presented some fun and interesting elements to the game,,, 'at first' but then after some time, the tile unit limit started becoming very 'old' and it just went down hill from there until it began to physically drive me insane and i had to give up on the game.

If you hate that then I don't recommend getting Pandora, it punishes stacking very harshly