Well, Rebellion is a stand alone who will have everything make before in it ( sins + ent + dip + reb )...

So, if Rebellion ( sins + ent + dip + reb ) hit the steam store, you don't need Trinity ( sins + ent + dip )...

In some way, Rebellion can be called "Quadrinity"

Quote from Ashenkhar

"It does to some extent, but I remember how Stardock's digital distribution service started.  The thing is... Stardock Central *became* Impulse, so my GalCiv and GalCiv 2 copies got transferred to that service.  

Now if I want to play/download GalCiv, GalCiv2, Demigod, or Sins I have to use Impulse, which was fine when Stardock owned it.  However, Stardock doesn't own it any more.  My games didn't transfer back to Stardock, which is my main complaint.  For now, I'm only purchasing games on services that I feel are going to be around for the long haul and are not GameStop.

I'm sure it was a great business move for Stardock to make.  I can respect that, after all you guys aren't in this for charity.  However, certainly you understand if people are skeptical of purchasing from you this soon after you just sold our accounts and all our Impulse purchased games to GameStop.  A company that many gamers revile, with good reason.

If Rebellion comes out on other services, great.  If not, well... there is never a shortage of new games."

He's got the right idea...Many of the complaints I see is that we had no choice in the selling of our digital copies to Gamestop. You guys can call it good business if you like, but that really means nothing to the end user. I bought your games through Impulse because it was Stardock. I didn't buy them from Gamestop. Only now I have no choice in the matter.

This is why people are complaining about the no transfer to steam policy. We simply do not want to deal with gamestop, but Stardock took that choice away from us. All there is from Stardock is a shrug of the shoulders and a "sorry, too bad". We chose to use Impulse (when it was Impulse) because we love your games and trusted your company. We do not trust Gamestop.

Do you see the difference there?

Many of the users here feel abandoned by Stardock with no real explanation.

Go to https://store.stardock.com , log-in, click "my account", click "view your product download" ... you will have a screen like these :

If you have multiple account like me, check them all... any Stardock product that you have buy can be found there... for copy that you have donate as gift, check the "print invoices ( view past orders )"...

Galciv II Ultimate have a direct download link because i have buy it via the Stardock store ( cheaper that on impulse/Gamestop )...

For buy, there was always a choice... Stardock store or Impulse... as for download, i will explain a little more below...

Well, i don't like gamestop too... so, i have recently buy Gal Civ II ultimate directly on the Stardock store... serial from the Stardock store work on Impulse too...

Stardock have not abandon us, they are already working on a new stardock central for download and patch... will work with any Stardock product that you have register... same the new Steam Trinity version need to be register on Stardock, so the game will be listed in your Stardock account...

Once the new Stardock central will be running, you will be able to use it ( hope with the Steam version too )... because of your registration... It is how Stardock central have always work before the creation of Impulse...

Don't loose your trust in Stardock... be patient... Stardock know all the owner of Stardock product and soon there will be SDC for download/update/patch/etc...

If someday, Impulse/Gamestop and/or Steam die, you will always have your Stardock product register with you Stardock account and you will always be able to download/update/patch it via the new Stardock central...

PS for Stardock Team : try to have the new Stardock central ready soon... it will extinguish a lot of the complain in these topic... best is to the new SDC is working BEFORE the release of any new product... i am thinking about rebellion now... maybe a new post in the topic with the screenshoot of the future Stardock central is needed, a post who explain deeply what is SDC... a lot of your newer customer don't know about it... and try to keep the "chat" in the new SDC, useful for setup multiplayer game

EDIT : Steam ( http://store.steampowered.com/app/201290 ) miss something... a demo ( http://storage.stardock.com/files/Sins_of_a_Solar_Empire_Demo.exe ) for convince new potential customer to buy sins...

I would suggest contacting support, as your Stardock games should be on your Stardock account.

https://store.stardock.com/login.aspx?ReturnUrl=/myaccount/products

For all we know preorders will done be done on Steam, so if you value having it on steam more then getting access to the beta you might not want preorder/cancel your preorder unless they say that it will be transferable. As Island Dog said, for now the only place where you'll be able to download/patch the Rebellion is the Stardock store.

Edit: It would be nice to be able to use the Stardock store or website to download and update Sins instead of Impulse, but it seems that isn't an option for whatever reason.

In other news, the release on Steam seems to have boosted the ICO online player counts for Diplomacy.  I don't know if the increase is due to brand new players or older players who have renewed interest.  It also increased membership in the Steam group I created to promote ICO and online multiplayer:

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/SinsOnline

It's not silly at all, in fact, that's been the recommendation from Stardock from the very beginning.  If you don't like Impulse, you can always uninstall it and it will have no adverse effects on your game.  As I noted though, if you want the patches, you'll need to hang onto it.  (At least until the new SDC is released to the general public.)

If you don't want those types of answers, don't ask those types of questions. 

OK after reading and trying different things and deleting and reinstalling the game I finally got it to run.

The problem was the instructions on the stardock activation page dont tell you to change the name of the file you have to plug into the stardock folder. (duh)

 In case anyone else is having the same problem as me (basically you arent really computer savvy and didnt notice this because you followed the instructions to the letter)  here is how I got the game running:

1.  After you download and install the game from steam, when you launch it, the startdock activation window will pop up asking you for your email, stardock acct password and the serial number from the game you are trying to register. ( you can get the serial number by right clicking on the game app in your steam library)

2.  If you dont already have a stardock account make one.  (I already had one since I bought Sins vanilla back when it came out)

After I did this the activation program gives an error message and says it cant communicate with the server.  On my computer it gave a message, opened up the folder with the file you need to upload and then tells you to goto this website:

 http://activate.stardock.com/

3.   Once there, goto this section:

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Website Activation

1. The application will write a file to your documents folder. The name of the file is XX.txt where XX is a number. The folder should open automatically, but if not, the file is located at:
   Vista: C:\Users\[Your Name]\Documents\
   XP: C:\Documents and Settings\[Your Name]\My Documents\
2. Copy the file to a an external device (USB Stick, network drive, CD, iPod, etc.) and take it to a computer that DOES have internet access.
3. Click on the Browse button below and locate the txt file. Select it and choose Open. Then click on Submit.

1. In the colored box below will be a link to download the file (or a message if an error occurred). Right click on the link and select "Save As." Save the file somewhere and transfer it back to the PC you wish to activate the product at.

1. Copy and paste the file to the following directory at the computer you wish to activate the product at:
   C:\ProgramData\Ironclad Games\Sins of a Solar Empire\License\trinity.bin
2. Done! You may re-enable your internet at this time.

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4. You dont need to take the file to a computer without internet access like it says in #2, I did it from my pc I was trying to activate the game on. Just find the XX.txt file in the folder it opens for you and submit it in the form.

5. Once you submit the file  underneath the submit button you will see a link where it says 'Click here to Download'. Save this file to your computer some where.

6. *Here* is what was causing my problem.  The next instructions above say to copy & paste the file into this directory:

C:\ProgramData\Ironclad Games\Sins of a Solar Empire\License\trinity.bin

The problem is the downloaded file is actually named 'sig.bin' not 'trinity.bin'.

I know its an easy mistake and most of you probably already knew this but like I said I'm not computer savvy and following the instructions to the letter it doesnt tell you to rename the file.

So basically rename the file you download before you pop it into the directory and the game will launch.

Sorry for wasting a lot of people's time but I know I'm not the only computer Jerry's kid out there and I want more people to actually play and enjoy this game.

Good Luck!

that is acceptable. now where do i find a page to download the full game and possibly patches manually.

As now, you can already add sins buy on Stardock store or Impulse to Steam : https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2219-YDJV-5557

This is possible because sins don't require Impulse for launch the game, thank to the no DRM policy of Stardock... It is not a transfer but it will allow your to use the Steam interface for sins...

Once the new Stardock central is done and released, simply use the same method for add it on Steam... The SDC will be the way to update all the Stardock games/application...

I have plenty of game buy on GOG that i have add to steam... for usual use, a single interface for everything... since a lot of these games are old ( and DRM free ), the update problem don't exist...

In the case of sins, add it to Steam... use only Impulse when update/patch is released... soon, for people who don't like Gamestop, there will be a new SDC...

We've not yet announced our plans for Rebellion yet, but we'll be doing so before pre-orders are charged in order to give customers a chance to make changes.

Well, it seem that the number of Sins Steam player is growing... have just check now and sins is already in the top 100 of the most player game on Steam ( rank 64 )... with 711 people playing it now... most player today being 729...

Rebellion is a stand alone title and for now (they are expected to give more details soon, as mentioned a few posts above) is only through Stardock directly, not Gamestop or Valve. Also since Sins has its own multiplayer system I doubt having it on Steam is going to really improve that (of course I don't really use it so I might be missing something).