I'll be honest, you sound absolutely butthurt and buttdevistated. And your "would like to see it working how I know it was intended" implies that you know how this mod should be run rather than the makers of the mod itself, which is rather insulting, to say the least. With that said...

The Executor class was indeed unmatched, it has significantly more armament than the Eclipse class, the latter being powerful primarily due to it's superlaser and gravity well generator. While it has been tweaked in the beta, it is indeed supposed to be tough to kill. Though, a Malevolence with it's ion dispersal cannon can take it out and three Praetors have equal or superior firepower to it, just a tip. The Geo SDN was included as it's a solid ship for the CIS, and the Eclipse class was not truly used until the Reborn Palpatine, while the Empire ingame is made to represent the Empire at the height of the GCW.

No hero ships, balance, balance, was not in common or widespread use by the CGW due to being a symbol of the Republic, in the beta, and that last one simply does not work in reality and is quite stupid.

First off, there's this limitation call the Sins engine. Secondly, those ships were primarily intended for long ranged combat, their use in close range occurred due to specific cases and scenarios, many of which are ones that happen to look very good on a roll of film. I think you can imagine which ones end up on said film.

There were multiple Executor SSDs, just an FYI.

Because people like the Vong and want to play as them?

There's a new version because well, first off there's a lot of balance changes and tweaks, and second because there's stuff we just flat out want to add to the mod.

Uhmm, there is no "spawn bug". That's the Sins AI for you, learn to love it!

This sounds a lot like pure buttmad; you give no real reason other than "I don't like it".

We do. I like to think that counts for something.

Chimaera addressed this earlier, though I want to add to it. The actual physical stats of the Venator (i.e. it's hitpoints, weapons, etc) are the same between the two Venators. What's different is their stats and that the Jedi Venator has Jedi pilots. In addition, the Jedi did use the force during the Clone Wars, Battle Meditation, scripted in as an ability, being among the most prominent of such Force powers.

I've thought of changing this myself really. I'll probably get around to changing it for ships eventually.

Actually, every single frigate and capital ship has the same top speed, true fact. You can check the entity files if you don't believe me, they all differ in their acceleration values, which makes them appear to be slower or faster, when in fact they are not.

Unlike EaW, there is no easy way to implement death animations. Or at least, it isn't as easy as EaW which is what many of these models were originally made for. We don't have particle experts, and we aren't perfect.

Why should we implement some little feature from a single video game which wasn't even common protocol or practice? This isn't the CIS where kamikaze attacks were not uncommon, to say the least, and a bunch of their ships have that ability..

One more thing, about when I said about knowing how it was intended to run, I meant I know this mod was intended to be great fun and Star Wars fans would love it, but with the issues in the mod...you know what I meant.

As for the Venator kamikaze Lucrehulk, I say to you why not? That'd be a neat ability and think about if a player has 20 Venators, decides to kill off maybe I dunno, 4-5, why let them die normally when they could atleast take out some Lucrehulks, the resulting shockwave then partially damaging nearby vessels. How is that not a good feature to add?

Going back to the new version bit, um ok so you can't fix a current mod, or is the proper procedure to leave it behind and just make a new one with bug/texture fixes and new factions+ships and etc? Cant both be done seperately? Like, fix the current mod, work on a seperate newer mod? To be honest I like this mod, I want to keep playing this mod, so my question is can this current mod be fixed or will I be forced to use the new one?

You're contradicting yourself there buddy.

>Episode III
>Era of the Galactic Civil War

Your timelines are off, way off.

One ship does not a fleet make.

Oh wow. You sir, are a riot. I'm absolutely dying of laughter right now.

Um what. After the Vong the Alliance is the best AI faction. The Rebels didn't have much firepower, they were using converted or upgraded civilian ships for the most part, other than captured ships. Alliance ships, for the most part, have amazing shielding, and as a whole, are unparalleled in their capabilities except by the Bulwark Mk.I which has such shielding, and the Executor due to it's overwhelming firepower.

It's almost as if you think that SoGE is supposed to be a near copy of EaW! Yeah, no. Stock EaW was garbage, the devs for it sucked and did not do nearly as much as the could have and should have done for that game.

But that's wrong, it has slightly more firepower than the Malevolence, Volley Fire notwithstanding, and it has the fearsome Buzz Droids. The latter ability is, in 1.0E, absolutely overpowering and dominating due to no damage cap and as Vulture Droids are OP.

It does high damage, and if you aim it right, it can take out a number of starships. It also can virtually one-hit kill high level regular capital ships.

Where was this actually done? Honestly, you talk about it like it's something vital but I don't recall it done in anything of particular importance or notability.

There is no "new" mod, there is only Sins of a Galactic Empire. A new version or public release isn't a new mod, it's simply an updated form of what was previously out. I mean, with all the plethora of changes 2.0E will have, you could argue it's something new, but it has 1.0E at it's core, and would be nothing without it. Barring the addition of Novus Universum, research changes, and price increases due to the former, the ships in the two for 1.0E factions are the same, with some tweaked and changed.

It was done in the Ryloth Trilogy of Clone Wars and in the Episode III video game. It was suggested by Anakin to ram the Lucrehulk dead in its sphere which destroyed the ship. In the game I mentioned, an out of control Venator on fire did the same thing with the result of the obviously larger ship going boom in a big fashion, the shockwave damaged the Invisible Hand and cause it to roll over till it was upside down. I know that isn't canon, but the idea behind it could be useful in this mod for gameplay. Think about when a person is Republic versus CIS, let that be an ability only Venators have. Or do you just not get my point?

I don't know about modding terminology so I didn't realize there's no such thing as a 'new' mod and that the 'new' SOGE is really just an update to 1.0.

You keep avoiding my point. I clearly said that the Empire faction in SoGE is a personification of the Galactic Empire during the height of the Galactic Civil War. The end parts of Episode III are not that point in time. I don't understand what is so difficult to understand?

Ah, so it's a one time occurrence in a video game and something else. What "Clone Wars" series are you talking about? The recent TV series? Assuming it is the recent CGI series, that trash has so many oddities that it can hardly be considered canon, let alone being relevant at all.

Damnit Episode III connects to Episode 4, the Galactic Empire was officially established in Episode III, it should be clear as fracking day those Venators were turned Imperial!

Also what the hell is with all this canon this and canon that nonsense? Are you saying you feel you must keep to 100% accuracy in the making of this mod in accordance to what is to be official Star Wars versus non-official Star Wars? I would think the nature of a mod meant it didn't have to follow CANONs of a series, but maybe I'm wrong. I am fully aware it's not the Galactic Civil War at the end of Episode III but those ARE Imperial Venators!

Let me put my statement into other words then... The Imperials were not fighting the Alliance to Restore the Republic, better known as the Rebel Alliance, at the end of Episode III. The Empire in SoGE is a personification of the Galactic Empire during that combat.

No.

If you are aware of this then I don't understand why you keep bringing up a point which holds no water.

What? The Lucrehulk in 1.0E sucks. It's main weapons are comparable to a Dreadnaught in firepower, not even other capital ships. Further, the Venator is the most powerful base capital ship in 1.0E, if you are having trouble with Lucrehulks in 1.0E, I'm sorry to say but you just aren't good at the game. With Venator capital ships you should not have any problem taking on the underpowered Lucrehulk. It's also supposed to be a tough fight; in the Clone Wars it took multiple Star Destroyers to take down a single Lucrehulk Battleship! It's also extremely sluggish and slow, this is something to take advantage of, and something the AI cannot deal counter or deal with.

If you told this to any fleet admiral they would laugh in your face and/or spit in disgust for your disregard for life; just because it is a game does not justify putting in blatant suicide without good reason, and quite frankly this is hardly any justification.

The Lucrehulk used to command the droid fleet was hardly a combat ship. That's besides the fact that he got pretty darn lucky, had the Force to guide him, and inadvertently exploited a design flaw.

Mon Calamari ships, especially during the Rebellion era, are a canon mess. The only Mon Calamari ships I know of are the Liberty-class MC80 Star Cruiser, the Reef Home-class MC80 Star Cruiser (wingless Liberty-type), the Independence-class MC120 Star Cruiser (Home One-type), the MC80b Star Cruiser, the Defiance-class MC90 Star Cruiser, the Valiant-class MC40 light cruiser, the Ardent-class MC30 frigate, and the Viscount-class Star Defender. The other ships, like the MC80a Star Cruiser, are so ambiguous, that they are hard to deal with.

No kidding. For example, the recent Mon Cala nonsense could have been avoided if George Lucas had said Mon Cala is the official name of the planet years ago, or at least clarify what is going on. But since they didn't do that, I flatly refuse to call it anything else but Dac/Mon Calamari. The list of canon discrepancies that TCW, the CGI series, has created is mind-boggling, and they call it a canon work?

The reason Zeta can't figure out what ship that Mon Cal I posted was is due to the fact that it doesn't have an official image to date. Tis Warb_Null's rendering of the Mon Calamari Heavy Carrier. Ingame serves a similar role to the Alliance MC80 SFRS, however it's armament is considerably heavier, giving it firepower slightly better than the Assault Frigate. This, combined with it's redundant shielding and Full Squadrons on par to it's spiritual predecessor, makes for a very nasty addition to the NR fleet. It requires a tier 5/level 6 tech however, as it wasn't exactly an early war unit.

It's never too late; all you gotta do is boot up a game or two and you'll pick up the differences real quick. Though yes, this is quite exciting.

WOW! Obsessed Much Admiral?!!  I thought the Trek fans can be total nut jobs, but at least they know when to STFU! i couldnt stop laughing at this troll-fest for the last 1/2 hour!

Admiral, You are in NO position to make ANY kind of demands from this mod team at all!! Let them make their mod their way! If you dont like it, just STFU, and dont freaking play it! I am sure it wont hurt them one bit if ONE cry baby didnt want to play their mod, because they wont add your absurd DEMANDS.. Oh, err i mean "suggestions". OOOOOH call a shrink! EvilJedi is gonna be a broken man... NOT!

If you want all of the nonsense that you DEMANDED in a mod, might i suggest you LEARN HOW TO MOD YOURSELF! Then you can put whatever you want into your mod. The irony would be that people insanely demand that you put crap into your mod that you dont want in, doesnt make any sense, or cant put in because of hard code. Then they rant, and bitch up a storm. Like how you have been ranting, ragging, and bitching up a storm on the SoGE team.

The SoGE team busted their collective asses on this project. On their FREE TIME! For FREE! This is an Excellent Mod.They are doing it right.

They dont need your "suggestions". Admiral.

I await the 20 page long "Waaaahh!! I am so butthurt" whine fest rebuttal that is gonna follow this post. This will be quite amusing.