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Reply #151 April 3, 2010 5:14:14 PM
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Someone asked this earlier, but I don't see where anyone responded.  Is there any way to load/save docks?

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Reply #152 April 3, 2010 6:12:46 PM
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Ok it has been several days since the Release of OD2 I have been going through it.

 

I asked myself 3 questions

What do I like?

The Reflections

The New UI

The ability to have a working systray dock

 

What do I dislike?

The lack of ability to import new backgrounds without having to unzip them and move them to the objectdock 2.0 folder manually.(If this is possible and someone can tell me how it would be great)

The lack of ability to have the taskbar and systray on the same zoomer dock

The Lack of ability to Save and Load Docks

I have created several dock backgrounds(have only shared 2 at this time) I really liked the package images feature.

 

What would I Like to See?

I would Like to be able to add My Custom Icon Folder To the default list witout having to actually moving it to OD2 folder

More Documentation as to what new features may be planned

The return of the FlyOut Menu(Stacks is nice but,I really like the flyout Menu)

 

 

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Randall30
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Reply #153 April 4, 2010 12:02:24 AM
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Only issue I see is I am missing the my music, my documents and my pictures icons anyway to import them from 1.9?

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Reply #154 April 4, 2010 7:34:30 AM
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Can anyone point me to a setting, with that I can tell docklets that OD is on the top ? I still have problems with Stacks-Docklet opening the stacks up to the top, which is unfortunate if You have OD at the top also.

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Reply #155 April 4, 2010 7:45:38 AM
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Quoting c242,
reply 154
Can anyone point me to a setting, with that I can tell docklets that OD is on the top ? I still have problems with Stacks-Docklet opening the stacks up to the top, which is unfortunate if You have OD at the top also.

 

Not sure if you want right click on OD then position then uncheck tab on tops.

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Reply #156 April 5, 2010 5:22:18 AM
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c242 I had that problem with version one of the stacks docklet but, somebody here on the forum posted a link to version 2 just look around it is here some wheres and then things worked fine

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Reply #157 April 5, 2010 5:29:41 AM
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Looking good and working fine on windows 7 64bit desktop and 32 bit laptop.

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Reply #158 April 5, 2010 6:21:08 AM
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The text  from mouseover on the start menu and unload object dock icon stay on the screen (frozen) a few inches above the dock.  The text stays on top of other programs and I must unload object dock to remove it. Only happens on my machine with Win 7. XP is fine. 

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Mirsguy
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Reply #159 April 5, 2010 12:39:25 PM
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Just noticed this one this morning:

Mouseover text on tabbed docks sometimes goes behind the dock background, and sometimes disappears altogether. As I recall, this is one of those bugs that haunted 1.9.

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Reply #160 April 5, 2010 1:51:45 PM
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(The text bug), I haven't had this happen yet. This drove me totally nuts with 1.9. I was really hoping this one would stay away forever hehe.

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Reply #161 April 5, 2010 2:39:38 PM
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The really big unspoken question is how long will it be until the next build addresses the new bugs?    

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Reply #162 April 6, 2010 1:14:35 AM
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Can't seem to add a Weather dock that was removed..it's in the directory but doesnt show up in the context menu..same happens for any new docklets I try to install..

Can you not install custom docklets yet?

 

This program is really frustrating..shouldn't be so when you pay for something..

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Reply #163 April 6, 2010 3:45:29 AM
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Remember this is a BETA, you paid for the release version. This is NOT the release version. There are going to be bugs that need to be fixed still.

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c242
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Reply #164 April 6, 2010 6:00:10 AM
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Quoting WinMonster2,
reply 156
c242 I had that problem with version one of the stacks docklet but, somebody here on the forum posted a link to version 2 just look around it is here some wheres and then things worked fine

That brought no improvement. If only OD had native stacks. The flyouts are not what I am after. They are nice to play with, but too nervous at times. What really makes me wonder that stardock listens to customers with WB and others while just plain ignoring demands regarding other apps...

And let's hope for an official statement in this thread.

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Randall30
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Reply #165 April 6, 2010 7:53:34 AM
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Beta means not done you are testing it and new things will be added. Thiis is how most beta programs work any how. I  am betting you will be able to add your own theme in the next update or so.

 

You paied to save $10 when it is release. Stardock explain this is not retail so why are people getting upset? If you want a finish product stick with 1.9

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Reply #166 April 6, 2010 9:17:47 AM
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I keep saying it folks: Every piece of software whose developer hasn't deserted it is essentially a "Beta" in that at some point, changes (removing, updating, fixing, adding) will have to occur.

The only "Final" piece of software is one which is no longer being worked on, or one which has been abandoned/orphaned.

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Reply #167 April 6, 2010 9:18:28 AM
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Quoting Newyears1978,
reply 162
Can't seem to add a Weather dock that was removed..it's in the directory but doesnt show up in the context menu..same happens for any new docklets I try to install..

Can you not install custom docklets yet?

 
This program is really frustrating..shouldn't be so when you pay for something..

This HAS been discussed and a temp solution that WORKS has been given us, use the SEARCH... hell just look through the list of subjects on the first page. 14th thread from the top as I am writing this and I got https://forums.stardock.com/379042 . Yes it is a little bit of a pita but it does work.

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Reply #168 April 6, 2010 11:14:09 AM
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Quoting c242,
reply 164



Quoting WinMonster2,
reply 156
c242 I had that problem with version one of the stacks docklet but, somebody here on the forum posted a link to version 2 just look around it is here some wheres and then things worked fine


That brought no improvement. If only OD had native stacks. The flyouts are not what I am after. They are nice to play with, but too nervous at times. What really makes me wonder that stardock listens to customers with WB and others while just plain ignoring demands regarding other apps...

And let's hope for an official statement in this thread.

Different development teams may handle feedback and updates in a different way.

I am sure the ObjectDock team have seen the posts about the stacks problems and hopefully they will implement a built in solution for 2.0.

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Reply #169 April 6, 2010 12:24:29 PM
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Quoting runamonk,
reply 163
Remember this is a BETA, you paid for the release version. This is NOT the release version. There are going to be bugs that need to be fixed still.

OD2 has been "in beta" for over three years now.  In fact, it has been three years BETWEEN beta releases.  

 

I sure do hope it's now officially on the weekly update roadmap again.  

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Reply #170 April 6, 2010 1:01:49 PM
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Quoting LotekDeviant,
reply 167



Quoting Newyears1978,
reply 162
Can't seem to add a Weather dock that was removed..it's in the directory but doesnt show up in the context menu..same happens for any new docklets I try to install..

Can you not install custom docklets yet?

 
This program is really frustrating..shouldn't be so when you pay for something..


This HAS been discussed and a temp solution that WORKS has been given us, use the SEARCH... hell just look through the list of subjects on the first page. 14th thread from the top as I am writing this and I got https://forums.stardock.com/379042 . Yes it is a little bit of a pita but it does work.

I did search I guess I just didn't do it effectively.  I figured out this much on my own..it's just a pain and I think the real problem was I was using SysStats which just doesn't work no matter what...needs updated version I suppose.    Still I didn't realize that the beta was just a pre-release to the actual release when I paid..I thought you had to pay for the beta...my mistake there.  So I guess it makes sense that there are bugs.

 

Quoting Excalpius,
reply 169



Quoting runamonk,
reply 163
Remember this is a BETA, you paid for the release version. This is NOT the release version. There are going to be bugs that need to be fixed still.


OD2 has been "in beta" for over three years now.  In fact, it has been three years BETWEEN beta releases.  

 

I sure do hope it's now officially on the weekly update roadmap again.  

This is true as I said above this is a mistake on my part...however beta for 3 years?  What gives....?  Kinda makes me think the money was wasted if it has been in beta that long seems like it won't come out of beta...

Anyways..the program actually works for what I need and I quite like it..though not sure why I paid for it when it doesn't do much more than all the free apps out there like RK Launcher...   I do like it and am using it at home (using RK Launcher up here at work since only need simple menu here)

 

One question I couldn't find via searching, is there no option to change the Running Indicator (I know I can just rename the file to make it work but where is the actual option?)

Thanks!

 

 

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Reply #171 April 6, 2010 4:44:10 PM
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Beta for 3 years? They talked about it for 3 years but that doesn't mean they were working on it for 3 years.

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Reply #172 April 6, 2010 5:03:44 PM
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@ Newyears1978, I have Sysstats working just fine with the BETA.

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Reply #173 April 6, 2010 5:38:08 PM
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Quoting Randall30,
reply 171
Beta for 3 years? They talked about it for 3 years but that doesn't mean they were working on it for 3 years.

The last Beta for OD2 (v1.9xx) was indeed about three years ago.  No one released an updated version during that time because Brad chose to divert Stardock (his company after all) from their core business of Windows customizing in an attempt to become a competitor to Valve's Steam...via Impulse.  

It's his call, of course, but it is true that a lot of manpower and programming resources were diverted to the development of Impulse (and Stardock games, etc.) and only recently was the lead programmer of Impulse put back onto ObjectDock in a meaningful way.  

So yes, there was a three year lag between updates for OD2 betas. 

I hope that any interim work "under the hood" makes it easier and faster to fix not only the new bugs that have cropped up, but also those that remain after all these years.

Cheers to the new version of ObjectDock!  

 

 

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Reply #174 April 6, 2010 5:48:01 PM
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Is there a way to remove the Reflection effect from an individual zoomer dock? The option isn't there on the Settings UI and I cannot see anything obvious in the CurrentTheme.ini file either.

I want me some free-floating docks with fully transparent backgrounds and it looks odd with the reflection effect in place.

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Reply #175 April 7, 2010 9:17:23 AM
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Quoting Excalpius,
reply 169

Quoting runamonk, reply 163Remember this is a BETA, you paid for the release version. This is NOT the release version. There are going to be bugs that need to be fixed still.

OD2 has been "in beta" for over three years now.  In fact, it has been three years BETWEEN beta releases.  

 

I sure do hope it's now officially on the weekly update roadmap again.  

 

OD2 has not been in beta for 3 years. The beta for 1.97 (2.0) just recently started. The previous version (1.9) has been released for quite some time. This is a totally new version.

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