it's not a matter of going out of the window. but it is still going in the totally wrong direction. and what i find so annoying is the fact that one that truly had read the forums would have known that. obviously SD/GPG did NOT! doing totally stupid things again. this sucks.

edit:... yeah you believe.. since i am here (demigod) i have nothing seen that jsutifies such believing.

Cant see all of page 5

I'm not sure the health per second matters so much, but I will give you the 200 more health can be the different between getting away and dieing.

Ya this makes all ooze beasts that much more OP. And then when they get a early monk from a teammate.  This is just an aweful idea to give this to assassins and I didn't even mention rook

It's about thresholds. Take a hybrid Blade of the Serpent UB build right now. It's very, very fragile early game, but you can get away with hit because spit does enough damage to drive away most players. Even up until level 5-8 a spit UB is still quite fragile, but the damage continues to scale up and balances it out.

The thing is the BotS literally gives you effectively infinite mana, and its STILL a risky item to pick against a pure HP stacking player. An effective buff to BotF (which let's be honest, that's all this really is in the end) simply makes BotS that much harder to use. Its relative strength declines.

The same idea applies to the other unique items as well, and don't forget, as the other people here have mentioned already, that priests and monk idols heal a % of total health and virtually every mid to late game fight involves sigils. Not only that, but unless they fixed it, priests/clerics/high priests/bishops all share different cooldowns, and good players will pick different idols to capitalize on that.

Let's take a fairly common scenario:

Sedna, Oak, and UB vs. whatever.

Sedna buys high priests, Oak buys Bishops, and priests have hit the field. UB has chosen spirit of the fallen and uses a sigil.

Spirt of the Fallen is, at that point, giving him 1500 HP. UB takes an opening volley from 1-2 DGs is then healed for 15% by priests, 19% by high priests, and 22% by bishops, for a total of 56%. That means Spirit of the Fallen, in the first few seconds of the fight, has already given UB 2340 health. In 10 more seconds she'll get 840 more from it when the second wave of heals hits her.

That's not a perfectly laid out scenario by any means, the damage and heals are likely to be staggered some, but my point here is that the way % heals and % health modification from sigils work puts a player who chooses something other than a max HP item at a disadvantage already. Their favor item must enable them overcome that disadvantage if it's to be worthwhile, when it comes down to it, and once these items hit the field that just won't happen the vast majority of the time.

FAVOR ITEMS SHOULD BE UNIQUE IN THAT THEY SHOULD ADD SOMETHING TO THE GAME THAT YOU CAN'T ALREADY BUY IN A SHOP. WHY THE FUCK DO I NEED AN HP FAVOR WHEN THERE ARE HP ITEMS, OR A MANA HELM FAVOR WHEN I HAVE MANA HELMS IN THE FUCKING SHOP. THIS IS SOOOOOOOO STUPID.

*takes a breath*

Sigil should be a favor... end of story. If you can have a favor item that gives you unlimited tp's with 45 second cooldowns, you should have a favor that gives you sigil's with a cooldown..... AND THEN REMOVE THE SIGIL FROM THE FUCKING SHOP.

Cloak of night, staff of renewal are interesting to me in that they offer something that YOU CANNOT BUY IN THE SHOP --- For cheap. That makes them unique. You can buy a warpstone, at the expense of.... you guessed it, some hp items. But warpstones aren't viable, whereas cloak of night is perfect.

I..... I..... I....... *anuerism*

@playgroundlegen:

although i very like your idea with sigils you are wrong on the cloak and staff of renewal, as you can buy both effects in the shop. warpstone and at least stormbringer (but i think there was a much cheaper item reducing your cd).

Frogboy did... this your unique sense of humor again, Poly?

From here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/366723

At this point I doubt anyone is going to go and remove the new favor items. Speculate all you want, but the playtesters have tried them and we haven't.

I think at this point the best we can do is wait for the update, then come back with more concrete examples and reasons for what we might request.

The updates look fun. Color me excited!

Gah, these new favor items just made swift anklet and blood of the fallen completely useless for a big chunk of the community, just more useless favor items...

I am looking forward to this new update though, BRING IT ON!

DaBRUM

Nice catch

same here

About the update, pls pls remove new favor items, as it's been already said they're balance-game breaking. There just won't be any viable alternative to them, expect to see lotsa unkillable SotF ooze Undead Beasts and Sednas.

Sigh, HP stacking taken to the next level...