Alright! I've found that the Game Training manual depicts all the ships and their crew compiment.  The Vassari Capital Ships by far have the most people packed inside haha.  But the numbers are already there, now for the other things i brought up :/.

Oh and another thing, @BINJURED we probably should allow non entrench people to join in?  Entrench users can always go back to the original and as long as the vanillas are familiar with entrechment lore they can still participate in the roles they play.  I wouldnt mind, should the battle permit, playing without entrenchment benefits....  and if it brings more people to the league then im happy, the other people are happy, and say they decided to pay their 10 bucks for entrenc  then wll Stardock is happy.  Everyone wins.

these ideas are not neccsarly rules to govern the game, they are more for story telling perposes, this in no way would change the way players actually play the game, that would be too hard to keep control over.

all mercury wants so that if people form other factions summit stories and such for the RP element that they are all in the same numbers and such. i dont think he is wanting to set any rules on how people play the game.

Thank you Xenon,

Yes, I'm just trying to put any and all stories we submit on battles and whatnot to the same set of standards, sure it complicates things slightly, but I feel that if our stories don't agree in terms of time passed and lives lost that that would complicate them more and lead to unnecesary discusions on who is right / wrong.  I'm not saying that these standards are to be used in game, I just feel that we would do better in storytelling if they were there for when we write.

So far in our own forums we have come to some agreements.

Ship Crews - Easy, The game manual has them there for you.

Planet population - The number represents the amount of governing officials on planet, and that the actual civilian population is quite large.

As for Entrenchment / Vanilla, For me, I started out playing vanilla anyway, I actually understand the original mechanics better.  Putting that aside, I feel that including Vanilla in our league will increase the potential amount of people who would join, and becuase this league focuses more on the RP element of gameplay and not on competative terms I feel that changes in ship mechanics are not to big of a problem.  Furthermore, if all goes well for the Vanilla's they just might feel like spending the 10 bucks for entrenchment.  However if you strongly disagree with me I will conceed, just wnat to start playing thats all.

Totally off topic, but what is the main conflict between the Vasari and the Advent.  Stardock's lore is lacking.  Seems like the Vasari thought TEC was gonna be an easy roll over and now their in conflict, and the Advent is getting revenge on the TEC for exailing them looong ago and now want their Dessert planet orgins back.

hahaha Mastiff, how is your faction comming along?  Any new "Valued Citizens"

Unified Explores

http://sins.blacklotushq.com/index.php

Hello all, this is about as informal as it gets(late here), I Nautilae, have taken the role of the Advent faction leader.

I will not be able to set anything in stone till next week on sunday as I have family business to attend to, till then if there is anyone who would like to jump the gun on my side before I even begin I'd love to hear from you. Also from anyone else on the team I would love to get in touch with you, to atleast introduce myself.

Please send a message to my email: Nautalias95@yahoo.com   

Thanks sincerely,

Nautilae

Hey Nautilae, looks like you beat me to being the Advent leader ha. Anyway i will join your side and will do my best to contribute any helpful ideas on and off the field of battle.

Hi,

Been watching the thread and finally decided to read a bit.. Have not read all messages so will have to catch up eventually.  Anyway, I too an a Battletech person.. in fact in more ways than one.

For anyone that knows the Amiga Computer, they will know immediately what I am talking about when I mention the name 'Mechforce'.  Written by my best friend and partner who was also VP of a development company we had together with my then wife, Ralph Reed and I were very involved in the Battletech world ..  more than the average person.  Back then, We actively developed the first, and in my opinion the ONLY, true real Battletech computerized board game.  We had kind of the OK to develop it, but never really got neither the game fully ready for nor full blown permission to commercialize it.  However it became what today is considered a true Classic Amiga game not to mention that it is also considered the foremost accurate Battletech computer game.   So much so, I still play it today on my Amiga systems.   (actually later revisions we never released publicaly are the ones I play - please do not ask for copies.  They are not and will not be released to anyone.  There are full available copies however of the last build we did release on the Amiga that you can get if you do want to get it.)

Well that was not all we were involved in.  We also helped in the development of the 'Battletech Centers' that were built in many locations around the world.  Each center consisted of actual Battletech full sized 'Cockpits' including hundreds of controls (which were eventually toned down a bit to about 75-85 or so if I remember correctly), two joysticks, full sound and one of the first EVER true 3D video games ever created.   In most centers, there were 16 cockpits networked together and each cockpit one person sat in and basically you all fought it out in a full 3D generated world of Battletech.   It was state of the art technology then.  Each cockpit contained an Amiga main board as well as Ralph and I's designed Sapphire 020 (68020 accelerator processor card).  And of course the software to operate all this in real time 3D graphics.  i.e. DOOM was NOT the first true 3D video game.   Battletech was albeit, only in these Battletech Centers at that time.

Here is a bit of 'news' or promotional information that is about these centers.  Much more information can be found on the Battletech WIKI.

"The BattleTech creators' goal of creating an immersive BattleMech simulation came to fruition in 1990 with the opening of the first BattleTech Center at the North Pier Mall in Chicago. The BattleTech Center featured 16 networked, full-sized cockpits or "pods" that resembled a fully functional BattleMech cockpit with over 80 separate controls. Each player selected a 'Mech to pilot into combat against up to seven other human players in the other cockpits.

Virtual World Entertainment, the company that managed the centers, later opened many other Virtual World centers around the world. It eventually merged with FASA Interactive Technologies (FIT) to form Virtual World Entertainment Group (VWEG) to better capitalize on various FASA properties. In 1999, Microsoft Corporation purchased VWEG to integrate FIT into Microsoft Game Studios and sold VWE. VWE continues to develop and support the current BattleTech VR platform called the Tesla II system, featuring BattleTech: Firestorm."   Quoted from: BATTLETECH WIKI 2009

After buying SINS, I too started immediately seeing a potential for a Battletech Universe.   In fact, SINS would be PERFECT for the actual Battletech Universe in terms of the space (i.e. BattleSpace) and AeroTech, jumpship and space combat fleets.  The only thing missing is planetary side combat (Battletech and CityTech) using dropships, mechs, armored vehicles, defensive weapons and turrets as well as infantry units etc.  If SINS had the ability to 'ZOOM' into or down to the planetary level, say like Battlecruiser 3000 AD or perhaps Imperium Galactica II, where can actually engage in the planetary battles with your units you have dropped onto the planet or even built on the planet, SINS would be the absolute perfect Battletech playground.

SINS powerful engine could easily recreate all the houses... Davion, Liao, Kurita, Steiner and Marik as well as the house controlled regions etc.  It could also expand further to include the Clans, ComStar and the rim areas.

It would be so cool to have space battles then drop to planetary level and fight for planetary control as well in the Battletech universe with its super attention to details and so forth.

Count me in as I am also interested in something like this as well.

WELCOME!!!! Glad to see you!! I look forward to reading up and chatting with you on lore and such, maybe we can fight on day in game!

Hi! i've been reading all the posts here and am very interested but i have a few questions:

1) need a faction be composed entirely of one race, or can it be several (i.e.,  an all TEC faction v. a TEC/Vasari combo)?

2)what if you are interested in things like lore creation, rule-mongering, and playing?  i am interested in these, but have no idea as to what i would qualify as.

3) if you are intersted in playing, what do you do if you don't necessarily have time to fight/finish a conflict that you are in?

Currently as far as I know, Binjured can confirm this for sure since he is the man in charge, factions are just one race only. But there is room for many factions per race now that we have 1 per race.

Lore wise, like shadow said. There is room for lore creation. I can speak for the Unifed Explorers than lore creation is not only encouraged but required, you must at least make your own background lore.

Once again Binjured is the main league man, Im not sure how in game playing will play out. That is something that will have to be ironed out once the main league site is up and running.

But, now that we have 3 factions we'll finally be able to iron that out.  Binjured needs to re-activate.

So, to get this up and running, we need people, maps, and leaders... uhh soo... are you proposing we simply play this on ICO orrr... what..? Summer is just about here so i dont think people will have scheduling conflicts, Should we( yes i think i want to be in on this , TEC ALL THE WAAYY AHHH) make a website with a calender for each faction with different members posting requests for dates, different chatrooms, a galactice map, ect..?

And another important decision, should we make it only Entrenchment owners, or should we include a on Original Sins owners, i dont think it will be very, uhh... official-like,  to have both, 1 or the other..

Lastly, If would like to contact me, i keep a close watch on my email USUALLY, so, if you have anything to add its,

Desamator@austin.rr.com, kthxbye

Anyways, I think we should -In Addition to the jobs already available-

The universe should have a news commitee, to keep members informed, like just a basic mailing list that if you choose to, you can sign up for, and Faction Leaders- Can submit information to, to keep most members informed of the happening,

Thanks for your time, please keep me informed, at above email address or on the forum,