JarLo AnLon

Join Date 07/2007

V 1.14.045 help!

My game won't run now

I downloaded the recent update through impulse, and now my game won't run. Here is the error I get after the game begins loading(bold & underlined text is the title of the window that gave me the information):

Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library

Runtime Error!

Program: C:\Program Files\Stard...

This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.

Please cotanct the application's support team for more information.

Then windows vista gave me the following information.

Microsoft Windows

Sins of a Solar Empire

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Problem signature:

Problem Event Name: APPCRASH

Application Name: Sins of a Solar Empire.exe

Application Version: 1.1.4.0

Application Timestamp: 499f125b

Fault Module Name: atiumdva.dll

Fault Module Version: 7.14.10.163

Fault Module Timestamp: 46aab18a

Exception Code: 40000015

Exception Offset: 000e9c9e

OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3

Locale ID: 1033

Additional Information 1: f974

Additional Information 2: a3e9470b7fd7857aa9fbd48859a9c3e1

Additional Information 3: e46f

Additional Information 4: b945466557c423ab82501cc11cc9ed78

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I'm having the same problem. Vista 64 bit- 6 gigs ram, Icore

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Oh yeah... operating system and such.

Vista Home Premium

Processor: 2 GHz

2940 MB Ram (not sure exactly what that would be in GB

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Blair Fraser

Join Date 10/2006

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You probably have custom maps in your galaxy folder. Delete the ones in C:\Program Files\Stardock Games\Sins of a Solar Empire\galaxy which are not in the following list:

Agamemnon's Bounty.galaxy
Ancient Gifts.galaxy
Areolian Sector.galaxy
Backstab.galaxy
Balance Of Power.galaxy
Blindside.galaxy
Celanus Core.galaxy
Centrifuge.galaxy
Close Encounters.galaxy
Convergence.galaxy
Counter Spin.galaxy
Cynosian Rift.galaxy
Derelict.galaxy
Devil's Cauldron.galaxy
Doppelgangers.galaxy
Double Cross.galaxy
Entanglement.galaxy
Face Off.galaxy
Fire And Ice.galaxy
Flashpoint.galaxy
Foreign Invasion.galaxy
FrontEnd.galaxy
Fulcrum.galaxy
Gaian Crescent.galaxy
Gateway.galaxy
Grindstone.galaxy
Huge Multi-System Random Map No Pirates.galaxy
Huge Multi-System Random Map.galaxy
Huge Single-System Random Map No Pirates.galaxy
Huge Single-System Random Map.galaxy
Hyperion's Gates.galaxy
Implosion.galaxy
Kronac's Cross.galaxy
Large Multi-System Random Map No Pirates.galaxy
Large Multi-System Random Map.galaxy
Large Single-System Random Map No Pirates.galaxy
Large Single-System Random Map.galaxy
Maelstrom.galaxy
Medium Large Random Map.galaxy
Medium Random Map.galaxy
Melting Point.galaxy
Pandemonium.galaxy
Point Blank.galaxy
Quick Strike.galaxy
RandomTemplate.galaxy
Razor's Edge.galaxy
Small Random Map.galaxy
Storm Front.galaxy
Systems Of War.galaxy
Tempest.galaxy
Triumvirate.galaxy
Tutorial-AdvancedInterface.galaxy
Tutorial-AdvancedResourcing.galaxy
Tutorial-BasicGameplay.galaxy
Tutorial-Resourcing.galaxy
Twin Empires.galaxy
Voruk's Labyrinth.galaxy

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This is F'ing fantastic- I'm trying to play with a buddy (we play once a month) and now I'm trying it on my XP box and it's giving me the same damn error.

4 Gig ram, 4800X2 AMD Proc, 7900GTX

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yeah same problem how do u fix it?

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Hooray none of the custom maps work- that sucks.

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yeah taking out the custom maps worked thx a lot

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Yeah, taking out the custom maps works...but no custom maps--that sucks.

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This update = massive failure

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I love my custom maps. I hope another update fixes this issue soon.

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Thank You Blair. I'll do that.

For those of us who like our custom maps, may I suggest moving them to another directory (folder) for now so that you'll still have them later if this is changed.

Is this permanent?

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No, it's not. I've confirmed that if you open them up in notepad and change some of the formatting to match the 1.14 official maps, you can get your old custom maps to work. It's tedious to do by hand, however, so someone's going to have to make a conversion program.

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Why are player records not updating after games??? I have played 4 games and none of them have counted toward my record. Many others say the same thing.

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Great patch - completely broken my install.

Thought I'd re-install the game from scratch, but it always crashes out just the same, as soon as I hit small maps to med maps to large maps, to custom maps = crash.

I uninstalled the previous game, I deleted the folders that were left, so clean as I can get it, all to no avail.

Takes about 40 minutes to re-install, patch etc, so an evening lost. The previous version worked just fine, so how does one only patch to that version alone?

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Blair Fraser

Join Date 10/2006

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You need to delete the custom maps you have in your user data\galaxy folder. This directory is not affected by installing/uninstalling as its in the user account specific area as specified by Microsoft.

On Vista its something like:

C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\Ironclad Games\Sins of a Solar Empire\Galaxy

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See this is why i wait untill i update.

Oh and hears an idea for stardock, If theres going to be a nother update, make sure it works with mods of earlier versions like V1.05. I want those mods but i cant use them.

Im just going to stick with V1.13 until then.

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Sorted now, thanks.

I read the sticky on the new patch, and noted where the custom maps are stored, not where I expect them to be really, teach me to assume and not read/research the forum better than I did. My mistake.

Though I have to ask why the patch didn't address this issue, would have prevented much pain and grief to many users had the patch informed the user to do this, or better still delete the files itself, rather than being left to discovery the hard way, and some user intervention there after. If the custom files are in a MS user account area and cannot be deleted thus, one has to ask why the files are stored there in the first place?

Guess there must be reasons beyond my understanding, but back up and running now. Once again Thanks.

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Oh and hears an idea for stardock, If theres going to be a nother update, make sure it works with mods of earlier versions like V1.05. I want those mods but i cant use them.

This is simply not possible.

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Why not? But then again, I dont know mutch about that kind of moding stuff.

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Well, mods change things in the game files. A lot of patches change the way that those files are written. For example, in vanilla Sins when you put a weapon on a ship, it can always fire. In Entrenchment, there's a new line in the files that allows you to restrict when a weapon can fire (so you can require research to make the ship able to fire it, for example). If you try to plug a vanilla Sins mod into Entrenchment, it's going to crash because the mod doesn't have the correct file format.

This is true for pretty much any patch that changes game files. Mods don't work because the file format changes and they need to be updated. Between 1.05 and 1.1 the biggest change was abilities using resources. In 1.05, an ability was always using antimatter. 1.1 added the option to make them use resources and that meant the file format for abilities changed (adding a line for resourceType), and old mods can't work anymore

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And mods arent the responsibility of the game developers.
If you make a mod, you are the one responsible for the compatibility. Says thanks that game developers create their games with the modders in mind.

oops, is this necro? how long does it take to consider necro?

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So I get from this that I can not make custom maps using the custom map maker provided by the designer? From mini dump to maxi hump good bye Sins I am so tired of going back to programming school to play your game.

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naquiste custom maps AND map designer maps do work in 1.15+ and entrenchment, also there is a little utility to update older maps to 1.15+/entrenchment version 3

first you will want/need a either or both winrar and 7zip ot extract files then download and install galaxy forge from the sins download page

for sins 1.15/entrenchment 1.01 the correct location is the program files galaxy folder, and running the tiny utility called entrenchment galaxy manifest manager which is in the 1.18 and v2.0.0.0 of the sins map updater

for sins 1.16/entrenchment 1.02, the galaxy forge maps NEED to be placed here for xp
C:\Documents and Settings\'user name'\Local Settings\Application Data\Ironclad Games\Sins of a Solar Empire\GalaxyForge

or here for vista/windows 7
C:\Users\'user name'\AppData\Local\Ironclad Games\Sins of a Solar Empire\GalaxyForge.

NOTE the first two folders after the 'user name' are hidden , so to see them you must first click on 'tools' then 'folder options', then 'view', then click on 'show hidden files& folders' then click ok, then you will be able to browse your want to the folder. I suggest when you find the folder that you create a shortcut to it on the desktop

also the galaxy forge maps only show up in the galaxy forge tab of map types

and if a map you want to play was released before 25th feb 2009 then you will also neet the sins map updater from here
http://files.filefront.com/sins+map+updater+v200rar/;13585432;/fileinfo.html

harpo

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Obviously you missed the part about me not wanting to go back to programming school to play a game that should be working fine out of the box. I mean do you hear yourself, download this, change that, find this hidden file, bake on 350 degrees for 2 minutes, don't expose to sunlight, risks may include blindness, sudden loss of hearing, kidney failure, blah blah blah blah blah. Why is it that I can't just download a simple update, play my game without having to go to update school everytime. That btw is my point. One update, no searching, no unzipping, no editting registry files, yada yada yada. Sorry my friend this game is taking way to much work to play any more, maybe Sins 2 will run better.

To date I have lost 15 games due to updates, fixxes, super fixxes, and even more super fixxes. ( did I spell fixxes right?) I'll make a fix to check that.

Peace and love to you all, and good luck on the next update release.

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