That was 40 years ago and I salute his service. 

But less than 1 year ago, he sold out all of his core beliefs for one last shot at the White House.  In 2000, I trusted and liked John McCain very much.  Today, I don't trust the man as far as I can throw him.

Obama I trust.  And, unlike the dwindling numbers of McCain supports, I am not alone.

We will!  Many of us already have.

I'd term it 'wooled pulled over eyes'"

Sadly I think He'll win... lots of sheep out there willing to trade votes for hand outs and an excuse not to work quite as hard.

If I could vote.. My vote wouldn't be for sale.

Can hardly wait to see the 'chosen one' come crashing down when reality sets in and he can't do 90% of what was promised to get him in office.

That thur is funny

Again profound ignorance of WHY I am voting for him (and the majority of the nation now), which I've detailed clearly in numerous posts, cited with documented facts.

I could easily say "there's an ever dwindling minority of neanderthal thinkers who just don't realize that the world is leaving them behind" but I won't, because that would be small-minded and ignorant. 

Well, that's POLITICS, after all.  No matter what, he can't do worse than Bush has.  There's just not much further down we can go. 

I'll take that bet...Suuuure he could do worse...  I havent suffered in anyway under bush that I can feel.

Well, I feel safer than in 2001, but thats a good thing.

Id rather be safe and poor than rich and vaporized.

Fact is.... Obama will win because millions of people want a hand out.

Lame.

What does running a PC have to do with making decisions?

Did Reagan know how to run a PC? or word processor?

Who cares? Someone would vote either way because of that? It's Petty.

I'm beginning to be skeptical of the reliability of Snopes.  They apparently accepted without question the 'copy' of the '1961 birth certificate' that Obama's campaign made available on their 'Fight the Smears' site.  From the Snopes entry:

Turns out the 'image of that document' purports to be a copy of a 'Certification of Live Birth' issued by Hawaii some time after November of 2001, not his '1961 Hawaiian birth certificate.'  It also appears highly probable that the image is a fabrication.  The links provided in Steve-'s reply #438 are rather convincing that the document is a forgery.  Not sure if that makes it more or less 'legally relevant.'

I frankly wasn't particularly interested in this issue when I first heard about it, since there was no reason to doubt that he was born in Hawaii.  But the dismissive condescension of Excalpius & BigDogBigFeet sparked my curiosity.

A number of aspects of this controversy make me wonder what we don't know and why BO & his campaign are so reluctant to enlighten us:

1 -The apparent forgery of the Cerfication of Live Birth.

2 -The question of whether Indonesian citizenship required renunciation of all other citizenship (at that time).  I believe BO has acknowledged having had Indonesian citizenship before returning to Hawaii.

If renunciation was required and BO's family had indeed done so on his behalf, what would have been required to re-instate his US citizenship after he returned to Hawaii?  Perhaps renunciation is a one-way street - once a US citizen, always a US citizen, unless it is revoked by the US government  - I don't think so, but am still looking into that.  Also not sure how his status as a minor at the time would have affected all of this.

In any event, the issue of his citizenship remains a very legitimate, and unanswered, question despite the Snopes entry.

EDIT - just spotted the reply indicating Hawaii has a legitimate birth certificate on file.  As I said, I never had any reason to doubt where he was born.  The rest of the story is still unnecessarily murky & incredibly easy to clarify if BO's campaign wanted to.  Would also be interesting to hear why a fabricated document was used to 'Fight the Smears.'

Let me break both of yours arms at the shoulder & leave them untreated for 5 years - see how well you use one then.  Petty silliness.

Yeah, u better vota Obama, cos he can use a pc.

Am I the only one who thinks that is petty?

This country deserves Obama if this is what it's come to.

More petty silliness.  Speech recognition is useful only if 1) you need to use a computer for some thing(s) and 2) you can do everything you need using speech recognition.  A computer is nothing but a tool.  If he can be just as productive without routinely using one (or pays people to do it for him) so be it.  If you really believe that his lack of computer skills/knowledge renders him unqualified to be President, you have some serious issues with reality anyway.

Probably about the same as what it says about our people that this should be a point of contention in a presidential election.

Lets grow up a little people.

My son came home this week and Stated many of his Pals want Obama to win because they want a black Pres and others wanted McCain because of his military background.. I explained to my son that you should no more take skin color in to voting for a President than voting against one. To vote some one in because they are a specific skin color demeans the whole voting process. I went on to explain the same about the other kids reasons for wanting McCain to win. Voting a candidate on such shallow and inconsequential reasoning's,IMO is tantamount to treason.

It is our responsibility as Citizens to to search out the candidates views on national events and how they want to run the country, then vote from our hearts the best candidate for the position. It is not to be taken lightly as it determines how our country will be for the next 4 years+. I explained that those who wish to use their votes to push an agenda, rather than do whats in the best interest of the country are doing our nation a disservice.  If folks only vote for a candidate to satisfy silly reasons, we as a nation loose.

Ive had women tell me they wanted Hillary to win, Some even stated they hated her and all that she stood for, but would have cast her the vote just to see a woman in office in their lifetime. Just about as much Patriotism as the ones voting so willy nilly for the other candidates.

Every election it's the same and getting worse, no longer is it about doing whats best for the country. I might as well vote for the Dominoes pizza delivery guy.

Big deal who wins if the candidates are nothing more than Front's for the Corporations or mouthpieces for their own hidden agenda. Wading thru the BS and lies on both sides makes the voting process harder than it should be. 

This thread started as one man saying "I will not bend to the wills of others", instead of celebrating this,( folks should not be hired nor fired for their political beliefs no more than they should be for race or religion.) the thread has turned in to yet another trash fest, one side Vs the other.

Choose wisely Folks, Our Lives and homes depend on your voting with as much knowledge on the REAL topics as possible. Screw the pooch and we all loose.

HG out.

poppycock

But they really shouldn't be leading the free world in the post information age revolution, now should they?  For Bush to be so digitally illiterate was and remains laughable.  For anyone after him, sorry, no dice.

It's long past time for a leader who's caught up with the 80's era technology, let alone where we are now.