Never really noticed but I play TEC all the time, usual just use kol, the one that can colonize, and a support ship depending on what my enemy is using, ie. lots of enemy bombers=carrier with fighters. But I usual have a capital ship group for backing up attacked planets and hitting weak points then use a HUGE amount of frigates against anything that poses a threat at my borders. of course I get pwned when facing more than two players(that are on my borders anyway)

Against the computer, try multiple Dunovs.  The firepower isn't great, but with the shield heals, your capships are very hard to kill.  The downside is that it's single heal, and as you level it up, it stops being useful on most frigates.

there a way to get the lame AI to build more shipyards?????...  I always end up having to wait forever for them to actually attack me.  Note too I made personal mods and pretty much everyone gets x3 the standard resource/income for getting a lil more action going.

A good example I just finished a game as the advent.  I was agaist two AI and had one allie.  I went to the last planet which was pretty heavly gaurded.  They had 2 kols, 3 of the danova,  I think 2 Carriers. (all  level 7 and 8) Now granted I only one because the allies showed up. 

But it just felt to easy to kill them.  My idea is just make them strong agaist frigates.  Now that is not to say neaf everything frigates or super power the caps.  Just make them strong agaist frigates.  I know it seems like when they (any game) fix something they go over the top.  Like super neaf somthing.  Say take 3 things away from something rather then just take one thing away or up one thing. 

Overall the game feels pretty balananced.

On a side note I understand why some people think repulse is broken.  I think its cool but just seems kind of overpowerd.

So are the ones that play TEC really good?  Or just don't know better.  Other then that cannon late game they just don't seem like they can hold there own.  But who knows the next patch could always change that. 

I must say I like the Vasari the best.  Advent is pretty cool but the voice acting drives me nuts.  That they need a lot more micro and I am not as good at that at this time. They on the other hand have things like Cleancing Brillance and Malice. 

Question, how was malice different before?  I have hard it could take out whole fleets when combined with CB.  Can it still do that maybe I have not gotteen the timing down.

Okay, that makes sense.  I have never played the game prior to the latest patch so I could not understand how videos I have watched were working the way they were.

Both seem to be very powerful.  Which one is better.  I think they are evenly matched and it comes more down to how you play and how the other guy plays. 

The cap ships are all about support, and augmenting your forces, except for the battleships It is pretty much the same for all of the factions. Whatever factions cap ship advantage over another faction is just minor. Nobody is going to win games using only cap ships.

TEC are mainly about spamming expendable attrition units. TEC units are below average shield, average HP, and average to mediocre DPS, but the thing that makes TEC so special is once you get your economy, and infrastructure going you are next to unstoppable, Because you can quickly, and easily replace your battle losses. The trick for TEC is surviving the early game rushes. God help you if the game gets so far as your TEC opponent manages to research pervasive economy, novalith, and insurgency. I would be looking for allies if that situation happened to me.

Vasari has more HP, and DPS in the early game, They do have the deadliest cruisers in game, because of their abilitys. You need to use that advantage to defeat a skilled TEC player. If you wind up in a long protracted fight get your gates up as quickly as you can, and use Dark Armada. Not to build a fleet, but as an emergency fallback option to get more ships in a battle quickly. The only bad thing about DA is the random ships that spawn. So its a roll of the dice on what kind of firepower you get. Still, it can make a big difference in a tough situation. With Vasari you hit TEC hard, and hit em early.

Advent are all about shields, psi tech, and fighter spam. They have some weak DPS, but how they can disable, and in some cases turn your own units against you more than makes up for that disadvantage. 3 projenitors and a nice wing of guardians almost guarentees they wont scratch the chrome on those ships. With the 1.1 changes the fighter spam got even more insane. Almost like the advent just sit back and let the fighters do all the work, and if ships get close blammo here comes the psi tech abilitys. What?! Half of our kodiaks turned traitor?! WTF..

The kill the support frigs is a give in no matter whos faction they are. I guess the whole point is it depends on what faction you like best, because i see no huge advantage for anyone except for maybe TEC in the very late game if you let them get that far.

Indeed tech are weak compared to advent and vasary late game and in some other areas. But if you know what you doing you can do great things.

First of all your maxed out cap fleet should look somehting like this.

5 Kols: It's the stronger ship that can take the most damage because of it Phase sheild abilaty and finest hour. In adition now it's anty fighter abilaty come in handy very often in the beta.

4 Marza: Raze planet just awesome. And missile barage works now and hvaing 4 lvl 6 marzas will cause heavy damage to any enemy fleet. Althoug you need 4 and not just one like advent and vasary.

4 Dunovs: These ships are very very important to have in your fleet. If you do not have sufficient support you are fuck. sheild restore and Magnatize are your friends. I killed and advent lvl 10 carrier with just magnatize the otehr day. HE had so many strike craft it was unreal.

1 Akkan: Colonize duh. Buttargeting uplink it pretty sweet gives you that little extra range and chance to cause dmg. and Ion bolt always nice to have to stop the enemy cap from jumping out and insuring it dies.

2 Sovas: Now this is the uselest Tec cap ship. It's got interrestign abilaties but it does nothing to realy help your fleet out. I always build these 2 last and sometimes i swap them out for Dunovs.

Now for frigates:

Hoshikos, Hoshikos, Hoshikos are a TECs fleet best accets and backbone. Don't attempt to fight the enemy with out a good number of these. AT end game I ahve 50 of thouse out. At early game i normaly pump out 20 as fast as possible. I try ti keep a 50% ratio of Hoshikos to other ships early game until i reach 50 Hoshikos. AND GET THE DEMOLITION BOTS!!!!! VERY USEFULL ABILATY.

Cielos are your 2nd best buddies. Only need 20 of them.

Other then that build your combat fleet the way you like it. I for one use every unit in the TEc arsenal except for the seige frigates. IF you spam just one unit time you'll probably still die.

Yeah i know But i just like to build them againts cpus. In online fights i rarely get to 6 caps.

I wish there was another level of ship that would be a step larger than the capital ship.  Make them a bit more heavily armed, add some additional special abilities....etc.  Make them VERY expensive and time consuming to build.  Maybe even use another size ship yard to make them.  I just think it'd be fun to have more to do at end game other than the super weapons.  I'm excited about the starbases in Entrenchment.   

TEC can hold thier own, but one on one thier ships are inferior.  It's that advantage in numbers that they get due to the fast track economics that that give them the edge they need.  Now, if you wait until late game there's a good chance you'll get your rear end handed to you.  The secret is to defeat your opponents while you can still enjoy the advantages your superior numbers give you.  Once the enemy can keep up with your production you're doomed.

1)TEC have the strongest economy.  If you look at Advent, they get trade ports with NO upgrades and a single system (last I checked) one per system version of refineries which take most of the tech tree to be really worth the build time.  They are reasonably structure efficient, but are painfully weak compared to the rest.  Vasari get trade port upgrades, but not refinery upgrades.  TEC get cargo upgrades that boost both.

2)Kodiaks are in my experience, the ONLY ship that can effectively hit a smaller, fleeing fleet and decimate them before they leave.  Do not underestimate mobility.  Often you have to activate the power manually to use it when and how you want, but it's a small price for a very nasty power.

3)In a fair fight, ship to ship, no upgrades, without support craft, TEC are arguably the weakest race, and their cap ships can be ... lackluster.  That said, their support craft are excellent, and as I said, maneuverability is worth a lot.  IIRC, for a pure Kodiak fleet, you can even use the power to reduce overland reinforcement times, giving you a LIMITED piece of the action that has always been assumed to be Vasari only.

4)a good TEC economy should be able to safely operate at one level of fleet upgrade higher than it's competition (all other things being equal).  That means you should be able to bring more total firepower to bear.

On a smaller map, TEC are said to be a rush side.  On a larger map, if you spend your time preparing for the 'inevitable' TEC rush (knowing your enemy is TEC), you may find they go for a fast overwhelming economy and just bury you with it.

Having said all of this, the cadence of a multiplayer game tends to be such that the crushing TEC economy does not often get a chance to stagger from it's knees before getting beat down by an LRM rush, and TEC are not at present my faction of choice... but there is what they DO have going for them (other than their support craft, and preference in support craft is highly personal and down to taste)

I decided I would play another game as the TEC and after that another as the advent.  So far I am really missing my phase missles, and having less ships standing by for pirates.  On the other hand spamming LRMS is a lot of fun.