oh and SP forgot to ask.....but.....

what is a "semi-Christian?"

You are dreaming Zoo.

Where has any one rebutted KingCasper211 points? I'd love to read that.

Silent poet posts:

Well, actually, we know that our Bibles are true to the originals from archaeological finds like those of the Dead Sea Scrolls in which ancient copies of bible books and manuscripts and other literature have been found in desert caves southeast of Jerusalem. With these, almost every aspect of Biblical life has been clarified in one way or another.

In any event, progress in archeology, linguistics, and history itself has helped scholars reach agreement about the substance of the original texts vs. the modern ones. For the most part the drastic differences formally found in earlier translations have been eliminated. For example, the non-biblical addition to the Lord's Prayer, "for thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory", has been removed from modern Protestant editions.

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KFC POSTS:

I don't want to put words in SP mouth, but I think I know to what he is referring to when he says the monks could have mistranslated the bible when transcribing the manuscripts.

We know the Holy Bible is a collection of OT and NT books that came from the original Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek languages. We don't possess any of the original manuscripts were written on papyrus and have perished. But we know approximately in 150AD, a version of the entire bible was assembled call the Old Italia and that was in general use until St.Jerome translated the Bible into Latin in 390-405 AD. This version superceded the old Italia and is now considered a sacred translation in its own right, having received the approbation not only of 16 centuries of continuous use, but also formally declared free of error by the Council of Trent in 1545-1563.

It was becasue of the monks, friars and nuns in monasteries of the Middle Ages that these versions came to be preserved and multiplied and diffused throughout the centuries previous to the printing press. the monestaries were the centers of learning in those times and an indespensable part of every monestary was its vast library so much so that emperors and other great people borrowed from them.

the monks of those days were the most learned and by profession scholars who renounced earthly pleasures and dedicated themselves to a retired life of prayer and study, and the one principal part of their work was the painstaking copying and transcribing of the Sacred Scriptures. Some princes including Charlemagne gave the monks permission to hunt for deer in the royal forests so as to get skins to make into parchment for copying work.

oh I agree with you completly here Maso. It's not up to me to convince you. Only the Holy Spirit can do that.



Well that's good to hear. But I haven't gotten that impression from you up until now.



Com'on on...look at the subject matter here. I don't post biblical stuff in a non-biblical context usually. In fact, I quote very little scripture unless there's a valid point to do so. The bible NEVER contradicts Science and I would again challange you to show me where.



always seeking knowledge but never coming to the truth? "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of Knowledge;" Prov 1:7a

Well there's worldly wisom and there's Godly Wisdom. I don't seek wisdom from men usually but of God. I measure what men say against what God says in scripture. I seek Godly counsel not worldly counsel. I don't believe the bible was written by men but only in that they were instruments used by God guided by the Holy Spirit.

I had a lengthy reply rebuttal to this, having written pieces of it every day since I last comment on this, but...I realized somethings. Thanks can be given to the woman I love.

I used to think that finding answers to life is what mattered. Life had to explained and analyzed and what not. Faith, Science, they're birds of the same feathers, but of different means. They're both about finding answers; They both have their faults and praises, both have their holes and negative aspects. They both seem to have a burning passion (in some cases obsession)in answering everything.

Why? That's what I ask both you KFC, and you Zoo. Why look for the answers? Why do you have to have answers to everything?

Me, I'm going to live life. My physical health is precarious, what happened with my one lung can happen with my other remaining lung. I'm going to enjoy second time I have on earth and not bother with the chaos that is religion, nor the chaos that is science. I've come to realize that one can be just as blind as the other.

You can quote your scripture all you want. You can pray for my soul, that's fine. You can even approach me at a buss stop and hand me reading material (JW's do that here), but I'm going to just shrug my shoulders and say, "No thanks, but I know you mean well." My faith, my belief that there is something greater lies not in scripture, or in science, but in other things.

My something greater, cant be explained, because honestly, it just is. I have faith in hope, love, kindness acts of compassion that normal everyday people do, etc...

My way of sharing that, is being a good man, being kind,honest, integrity driven, hard working, caring, etc.. I'm not going to go and start preaching my way, nor condemn others, because they have their way, their beliefs.

I'm happy with my 'faith.' Call it whatever you wish. Andre Gid had it right in a sense, "Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it."


Some what of a tangent on a tangent; For that point, It doesn't matter how our nation is. Conservative or Liberal? Democrat versus Republican? Give me a break. Life is to be lived, to enjoy and to make the most of what precious little time we have, not argue over a silly and futile point.

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Sometimes you cannot change even an inch of a person, nor persons. They're so dipped in one thing or another that they're that way, permanently. It's like the saying, you can't change a zebras stripes. Some just won't change their views, or selves. I've finally accepted that.




I recant that statement. I realize I'm not, as I though, a christian. You are right, I'm not. I'm not really any particular faith. I believe that the supreme being is everything, the plants, the water, the air, the animals, and yes...he is Allah, Yahweh, Buddah, etc..

It is everything and everything is it. That makes sense the most. It's my peace.