Some Planets should have more then 1 moon and you can upgrade them. Some moons look like astroids.. and orbit the planet.

--- moons can be destroyed not only by capital ships, but also by huge random astroids striking it.

also---- Creaters on planets when attacking it -- more realistic!!

I personally would like to see mobile frigate factories that take up two or more capital ship slots and a hell of a lot of supply. They would be slow, and poorly defended, but well armored and capable of jumping.

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I really really want a mega sized ship at the end of the research tree. At the moment we get ..... a canon? What? I want a death dealing, titan of destruction, majestically moving through space taking on all comers and laughing at them. I want to send it to the pirate home sector by itself and just watch in awe as it's mighty shields stand up to all they have to throw at it while multiple beam weapons and missles blow the pirates out of the sky.

That's what I want.

Please!

ya it would be good to research (endendgame) a mobile planet,or supercap, or the ability to build super defesne stations that incircle a gravitiy well (would have to cost tonnes and the restriction of building say 1 per every 10 planets. that way u just dont mass em but strategically have to place em. and supercaps/ships limited to 1 and a mobile planet limited to 1.

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I'd love the ability to offer or collect crystal or metal bounty, not just cash. Might help with the high reliance on the black market. Pirates could simply equate all resources to their present black market value when determining who they want to attack.

Yes, if you're a bad enough player to send one in alone. But pair it with a couple capships and damage-distributing or shield-restoring covering ships, and have any player worth his salt verify there's no hyperspace inhibitor in the system or any that is there can be taken out first, and it's suddenly not quite so easy to destroy that mothership.

Add me to the list that doesn't want to see uberships unless they're *carefully* balanced so that they don't become the automatic destination of every player's build tree and players can win without ever building one.

-- Retro

I don't think it's been posted yet so...

Space Mines, that's really all I want.

Retro,

Excellent idea!


I should qualify that I only play on hard, so this comment is geared to that difficulty. With all the myriad of paths to attack your empire and the cost of a Supership you would have to be a serious gambler to send it in with anything other than a disposable fleet of frigates and cruisers. I have had simultaneous counter attacks on two of my systems while I am only able to attack one, otherwise. Of course, by the end of the game you have all that you need.


Try overlapping inhibitors. I don't remember which mod it was. I noticed the first and took it out immediately but missed the second, until I tried to jump of course.

I agree about the balancing of the Ubership, and forward that it should cost Capship slots if you want to build one.

* culture: some consider it too weak, I'd say its maybe a bit too simplified. my problem with it is that there is essentially only one way of getting it - construct media structures - and not so many ways to boost it. research, build more hubs and population? planetary bonuses you cannot really influence so I dont count them here.

also, the ways to counter culture are limited. you can build hubs yourself, you can research, you can station capships. to be sure, I do like the diversity of effects, culture provides, increase of allegiance, endangering enemies and race specific boni, very cool. but there are too few ways to profit from it imo. can't think of much you can change there, bc options are limited in the way the game is right now. one way would be to split the research items into the various effects culture gives, so you can increase either the race specific thing or the offensive thing ( or the allegiance thing, but that is limited to advent now anyways. might be interesting to make this more available, but just way stronger for advents).

especially on the offensive front, I think it makes you more of a target that it helps you non-militarily attack anyone. I will have a few ideas in another point below.

* bribe planets: frankly, this idea is straight from rise of legends. as we want an rts/4s hybrid, some econ strategies should be rewarded more and one way would be to give players to possibility to bribe neutral and player planetary governors (note: governor is just a word here, I dont want to get into governors as a gameplay item aka MoO II) to join your empire. the cool thing would be that the amount of resources needed would depend on culture/ allegiance, trade, fleetsize or maybe simply happiness which - as shown above - includes all those paraneters.

the bibery should have a lower limit where its a bit doubtful where you achieve or just waste money, but the more res. you offer, the better your chances get and the more items will change side. with high bribes you wouldn't only turn the planet to your side, but maybe even some ships and stations as well. to help the victim, the bribery should be instantaneous, but take a few minutes and, depending on happiness and bribe offered, either soon or fairly late between the bribe and the actual swith a warning would be delivered to the defending player. so effectively, some fighting will take place, but the attacker aka ecnomist will have a better position. also, it might make diplomacy more interesting, if this could work with players not currently at war and not cause war (aka 'they joined us, they are just sick of your oppression')

* tax level/ happiness: I think you should be able to determine on a per planet basis the level of taxes you collect from population ( and maybe from tade on an empire wade basis also somehow). the limit of tax level should be set by another new item, the happymeter (happiness meter). basically, that's a fairly common thing in 4x games and is influenced by a number of options, like colony size/ infrastructure, size of garrison fleet and defensive structures, cultural influence and of course taxes. the good thing about it is that you can adjust it readily and some good econ strategies will be to find ways to keep happiness even with fairly high taxes.

now, what should be the consequences of low happiness. well, population might protest and refuse to pay taxes at all for a while, angry mobs could damage infrastructure, population may be lost in insurgencies, ships or stations may go renegade and fire on sth, saboteurs could destroy things in orbit, or in the worst case, the colony may outright declare independence or join another empire ( and before that will be much more susceptible to bribery, but see below for this).

* victory conditions: currently we have basically "destroy everyone you cant force into an alliance". not too much for a hybrid.

- I'd like to transform this one into some kind of domination victory, where you just need to get a certain % territory, or military strengh or population. rise of nations is an example of an rts that implemented multiple victory conditions with this being one of them.

- also, some kind of ecnomic/ scientific victory would be nice. research two or three techs, build a handful of very expensive things and you win. no superweapons. no killing enemies. just a win. there can be warnings. it should be expensive. but there should be some way. make it some kind of transdimensional gate. or a "call god to kill those guys" device or whatever. but the scientific way now via superweapons is still militaristic.

- cultural victory? well, why not, but the way advent is geared towards culture, it might be unfair.

* ships designing: I know, I have been against it. yet, thinking about the ideas, I remembered a few games that did do it in an rts. earth 2150 + 2160, IG II, incredible creatures ( though outside the actual game flow). I guess this is just too radical a change even for an expansion and it may still take away too much time, but it could work.

just keep it to the basics. select chassis, select weapon, select defensive item. some chassis maybe be able to fit special equipment instead of weapons. just make different weapons/ chassis/ defenses have different effects instead of just getting stronger, bc otherwise there would always be an ideal superunit and diversity would be futile.

there could be long, medium and short range weapons, heavy, medium and point defense weapons, as well as equipment to disable stuff like ion cannons or electronic warfare.

for defenses I can see shields, armor and point defenses.

a nice option could be to sacrice jump drives for more combat capacity ( and use them as garrison ships).


now, in spite of all the 4x, some suggestions for the rts part.


* evasive maneuvers: ships in sins have firing arc which makes things nice. why not take it further and give stances for "stand ground" and "evasive maneuvers" and maybe more. the benefits would be that you get hit less, if enemy ships have a narrow firing arc, but you wont get to fire as you yourself. this of course requires ships speeds to be modified a bit. it wont work, if only one or two capships are concerned by it, even the smaller ships like some frigates should have trouble constantly hitting maneuvering ships. note the "some". ship balance could be tweaked to distinguish more between frigs/ cruisers with narrower and broader firing arcs with all the accompanying benefits and drawbacks and as such different ships would be useful in different situations.

main problem I see is that this just gives the option to make everything a semifigher and that its not really tactics, but simplistic stimulus-resonse playing as in "enemy has or does a = I do b"

* morale: I would go for ultra-deep implementation of morale. a few simple things would work nicely, like negative effects if you lose a nearby capship or your planet gets bombed. positive effects if reinforcements arrive. maybe some panicing ships. while not all is necessary, total war series displayed a lot of stuff here.

no idea how ppl like those changes. one problem may be that it adds more than any person can handle in a single game. after all I make battles require more attention, while shifiting focus a bit towards individual planets which will also take up time.

For an expansion pack:
***- New, cleaner HUD
- Better Sound! (The sound could be better)
- A NEW RACE!
- Scarier, bigger, more powerful new capital ships.

& like others said:
- Bigger gravity wells
- Moons
- Different planets (size, type, etc...) and destroyable planets (a must)
- New Stations and "Planetary Defenses"
- Stealth Ships, special abilities
- Even more complex strategies (new features)

No single player campaign or new graphics. It's a lot of work, and doesn't really add to the gameplay. Be realistic guys - this is an expansion, not a new game.

I dont see this as being feasible but i think on the moons would be awesome but i think that just space station in general to be built at planets that can evolve differently ... for instance lets say you have a space station in an area you have way back in the back where a enemy fleet has little chance of getting to make it where it is a diplomatic haven or speeds up production is a giant trade hub... but you have a space station you built at a choke point make it a veritable man o war that bristles with whatever weapons your race uses .. advent-beam tec-kinetic vasari-missle but make it where you can pour your resources into it and it can expand and build into a behemoth.... and my other idea though it ties into the first, would be a large say cruiser sized vessel that is minimally armed but has construction abilities so you could fly a fleet into a gas giant or asteroid belt and build a station there. Just some thoughts to add to any list

Not sure if this has been said or not, but how about an instant battle option. Like in rome total war, u can choose each sides forces and map and just have a fight. Maybe take off the 16 cap ship limit for it. Thats my 2 cents.