Risk? What exactly is the risk with SDC, games, or anything else?

WB uninstalls just fine. Just set it back to Classic/Luna/Aero beforehand. Never had any issue with doing so myself.


Putting Sins on Steam would be require us to abandon our stance on copy protection and DRM--Hassles just to run games offline, a loader that wants to run all the time in the background, and disc checks on retail copies ON TOP of the online DRM? No thanks.

With Sins's success so far, and the coming replacement of SDC with something better, I think I can say we've only just begun to fight Steam

Amalinze - You comments are completely off base and unfounded and smell of a troll post of the first order.

SDC is so much superior to steam, why would people ask to have Sins available on the less user-friendly system? I do not understand ...

Yes, steam is great mostly because of the great games it delivers (HL2, its episodes and of cause the by far best shooter-like game of this year, Portal). But as distribution system it is way too restrictive - much more then SDC for example.

The other way around would be great: Having more games available on SDC without the need for CDs or being online to play a singleplayer game and all the hassle other types of purchasing a game provide.

He's talking about Impulse.

-HM

Steam may be a competitor of Stardock, but trying to compete head-to-head with it won't gain anything. Using it would benefit both sides.
If it were the other way around, for example Steam/Valve putting their games on Stardock it would obviously not be beneficial. This is not the case.



Steam has good protection. I understand it would be quite a bit of work involved with transferring the existing copy protection to steam, but it would easily be worth it.
This shouldn't be used as an excuse, it is only restricting their own possible potential.



Or, keep TotalGaming.net and use Steam as well to gain even more sales/money.


I'm talking about distribution, not chat/overlay features etc.

And I don't read around these forums, so I haven't seen any other steam-related topics. I just had a quick browse, saw nothing, and posted.


There's a reason people love steam. It has a large, strong community; It has a lot of great games, at great prices; The features are brilliant; It is hassle free.

Steam would happily have Sins enter its range of titles, and Stardock should take advantage of this.



Exactly.

By using additional distribution oppurtunities, doesn't mean they have to abandon their own one. If anything, their own one will gain more publicity and become more known. From there, they can build on that.


While that is a good number, it could be a lot better. Considering it is confined to retail distribution in North America, and only Stardock for digital distribution, there are a lot of markets open for Sins which it should use.



Ok, you need to look at the larger picture, not just your opinion. You may think that it is "less user-friendly" (which may be true, I don't know), but most people will not have even heard of Stardock.
If it were available on Steam and both stardock, then fine, stick to your personal favourite. But by having it on Steam in addition to Stardock, it will appeal to a much larger community as well as this one. Expansion will only make it better.

Clearly you don't understand. The reason it won't transfer to steam isn't the "hassle" involved in transferring existing copy protection, its the fact that steam has DRM in the first place -- and SD refuses to use it! So long as Steam utilized DRM (which I doubt they'd stop doing... ever, they aren't that smart), SD won't do business with them.

Perhaps you aren't ware of this, but there is no DRM involved in any SD product. The only thing that even comes close is the requirement for a valid CD key to play online or download patches. SD (and by extension, IC) is married to that concept because it works.

Perhaps McLovin thinks that using Steam's copy protection would be a gain due to the (theoretical) increased sales. It seems that Stardock is much more interested in having no DRM on the game itself, and I can't say that I'm unhappy with this choice.

-HM

Heh, I don't understand what DRM Steam has. As far as I know, you pay for the game, and you can play it. If you don't pay for it, you can download the game and play offline with the numerous Steam cracks and torrents etc.

Isn't that the same as SD? You can download Sins from a torrent, and play offline without a crack....

Didn't I just describe exactly the same thing?

Thelen SharSF,

There's a big difference. Any Steam game has to be cracked by someone to play it without Steam. With Sins you can simply copy the official DVD from someone else, with any DVD burning software of your choice. The pirates/warez people did absolutely nothing to it before releasing it to the torrent sites.

And even if you pay for a Steam game, you still have to click the appropriate checkbox to make sure your Steam credentials are stored on the PC. If you don't do this, you cannot run Steam and play games without an Internet connection.

-HM

*hands Spartan an even bigger cookie*

No, sorry, Me > you, so I keep the factory

*whistles innocently*   Besides, the mirror keeps telling me I'm pretty.