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Reply #176 March 3, 2008 7:48:32 PM
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CaptainH, I've also heard that too. Better start packing, only 100,000,000 million years until we get sucked in, we should be prepared to leave

A nice idea with the insurgency. It is a planetary bonus somewhere, but the effects are limited (3 levels as I recall, Revolt, Insurgence, and War Torn). It does give me an idea, but the way to do it would require too much time with the present mod tools, and is a long winded way. If however, you could add abilities to planets (like plasma storms and asteroid belts have), but have them randomly, it would allow something like you mentioned possible.

Thanks again to everyone for the comments. They are always welcome.
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Reply #177 March 3, 2008 7:52:51 PM
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i have no idea how to extract this some1 help me
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Reply #178 March 3, 2008 7:56:10 PM
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Right. A little more info would be nice. What exactly are you having problems with? Getting it out of the .zip? Or not knowing where to put the files? Or confused over which files go where?

Can you elaborate please?
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Reply #179 March 3, 2008 8:41:47 PM
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lmao some of my teachers in school told me that the history channel was a lie.

yes it is a theory, but thats why i said supposedly. they say that we know the size of planets orbiting other stars by using a star bypass..


thats something like the planet goes in front of the star and a shadow appears..

right.
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Reply #180 March 3, 2008 9:17:05 PM
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lmao some of my teachers in school told me that the history channel was a lie.yes it is a theory, but thats why i said supposedly. they say that we know the size of planets orbiting other stars by using a star bypass.. thats something like the planet goes in front of the star and a shadow appears..right.


Which is absolutely true. By measuring the exact brightness of the star before the planet passes in front, and the brightness when the planet passes in front, we can measure the relative size of the planet. The mass and composition however are something totally different.

95% of this kind of tech on the history and science channels is dead on. Its just that a lot of people (teachers included) have a hard time wrapping their heads around the science behind the discoveries, which is unfortunate.

Anyhow, getting off-topic now.
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Reply #181 March 3, 2008 10:53:43 PM
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liek i download everythign and then i go to extract it but liek i cant find the file that says mod, even when i look under sins of a solar empire or stardock
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Reply #182 March 4, 2008 6:39:01 AM
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Ok hi all this is the first time i am posting here...i had played ur previous versions of the mod with no problems, but i encountered sometime strange with this new version i had loaded the mod from my options tab in game and yes the mod appears there and at my main game options screen it displays sinplus ok great, but when i loaded up a singel custom map nothing was changed, research was back to vanilla and so was all the changes i had in the old version of this mod, and i tried it 3 times by totally removing the mod and re installing them.. but it was no use nothing in the mod was loaded into my game although i was able to detect and enable the mod, any advise here would help alot thks
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Reply #183 March 4, 2008 6:40:49 AM
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@ acid boy

it took me a long while to find where the mod path was.

C:Documents and Settings/User Name/LocalSettings/AppilcationData/Ironclad Games/Mods

Your Local Settings may be under the effect of a hidden file, like mine. you just have to play around with the settings until the folder appears.
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Reply #184 March 4, 2008 6:44:48 AM
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Ok, I'm going to copy a post from another thread I just made, because it is relevant here.

Please, PLEASE, post a screen shot like this:



Or this:




We can only help you so much with install instructions and directory locations, but mistakes can easily be made. The second shot there is not mine, but someone posted it in my mod's Page after he was having problems. I immediately saw the problem and he was on his way. So please, take a PrtScn (PrintScreen), paste it into Paint, save it as a .jpeg, then go to ImageShack.us and upload your picture. Then copy the last link they give you after the upload, and paste it in to your reply.

This will eliminate any obvious problems, and then we can move on to other things that may be wrong.

A picture paints a thousand words, and it can't be described wrong either. Help us help you.

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Reply #185 March 4, 2008 10:02:35 AM
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Is there anyway to to use these planet in the galaxy forge editer?


After playing with Galaxy Forge real quick, it looks like if you replace the original GalaxyScenarioDef.galaxyScenarioDef file with Uzii's, it'll enable the new planet selections. Please note that all new planets will appear in Galaxy Forge as a greyed-out planet (being there are no icons made for them).

Ocean, Rock (Barren), City (Urban), Forest, and New (Random Uzii Planet) will be selectable from the Properties --> Type drop-down box.

I haven't had a chance to test a map created this way, but don't see a reason for it not to work. Will have to test when I get home.

PS: Thank you so much for the mod, Uzii - it's an incredible addition to the game!
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Reply #186 March 4, 2008 11:16:19 AM
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@ acid boyit took me a long while to find where the mod path was.C:Documents and Settings/User Name/LocalSettings/AppilcationData/Ironclad Games/ModsYour Local Settings may be under the effect of a hidden file, like mine. you just have to play around with the settings until the folder appears.


Hey - I seem to have the same issue - under C:Documents and Settings/User Name I can find no Local Settings folder... how do I make that folder appear? Thanks!

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Reply #187 March 4, 2008 11:18:02 AM
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@ acid boyit took me a long while to find where the mod path was.C:Documents and Settings/User Name/LocalSettings/AppilcationData/Ironclad Games/ModsYour Local Settings may be under the effect of a hidden file, like mine. you just have to play around with the settings until the folder appears.Hey - I seem to have the same issue - under C:Documents and Settings/User Name I can find no Local Settings folder... how do I make that folder appear? Thanks!


aha - under tool, folder options, view, I clicked a show hidden and it appeared!
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Reply #188 March 4, 2008 3:29:14 PM
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Great Mod, it def adds alot more strategy to the game. All the planets look really good and now gas giants arent tottaly useless. I personally dont know anything about modding but i think maybe the forest planet would look better without that wierd shaped lake.Still its a great mod and keep up the good work:)
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Reply #189 March 4, 2008 3:36:39 PM
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Ok hi all this is the first time i am posting here...i had played ur previous versions of the mod with no problems, but i encountered sometime strange with this new version i had loaded the mod from my options tab in game and yes the mod appears there and at my main game options screen it displays sinplus ok great, but when i loaded up a singel custom map nothing was changed, research was back to vanilla and so was all the changes i had in the old version of this mod, and i tried it 3 times by totally removing the mod and re installing them.. but it was no use nothing in the mod was loaded into my game although i was able to detect and enable the mod, any advise here would help alot thks


I had a similar problem. I am using Vista 64 and it was hidden took me forever to find it.

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c:username/AppData/local/ironcladgames/sins of a solar empire/mods

This mod is awesome Uzii thank you.

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Reply #190 March 4, 2008 3:37:36 PM
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Thanks for the positive comments, and the feedback on the Forest planet texture. Imight remove it if I get chance. I put it in because the planet looks very plain otherwise, but I agree it does look a little out of place.
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Reply #191 March 4, 2008 8:25:02 PM
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ok thank u guys so much for the help and ive been able to make some advances in the mod installation, ok i got it installed and extracted, when im on the main menu in the game and i go to option and mods it shows texture and sins plus but when i go to play all the planets look black
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Reply #192 March 4, 2008 9:54:08 PM
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hmm thats a little strange.
try reinstalling it, and follow the read me exactly.

that should work.
if it doesnt consult Uzii the all-knowing.
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Reply #193 March 4, 2008 11:50:05 PM
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Hey Uzii, just something I'd like to comment on with your mod (as awesome as it is).

After playing a couple of games with it and having so much fun with the wartorn planet bonus, I decided to check your files to see how the bonuses are weighted. All the planets that had this bonus only listed it once, but on the desert planet, it was listed 4 times thus making it the most likely bonus to get on a desert planet versus all the others. Is this intentional? If it is, I'll just say that I think you've been watching too many Mad Max movies.   
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Reply #194 March 5, 2008 12:27:10 AM
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he knows that if sand gets in your vagina you get angsty and are more likely to start fighting.
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Reply #195 March 5, 2008 8:04:14 AM
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he knows that if sand gets in your vagina you get angsty and are more likely to start fighting.


Plausible as it is, no.

I figured this for a few reasons. Where resources are short, wars will ensue. That is the main reasoning behind it, look at the wars on Earth, not the major World Wars, but others. Either Religion or Resources are the causes of nearly all of them. On a planet with very limited water, vegetation, and other life, everything is a matter of life and death. You control the resources, you control the world. Also, a minor point was that considering its not far from a complete wasteland, Desert worlds were far too valuable in Vanilla.

@ Acidboy
Yes, it is a textures problem, and probably caused by not putting all the right texture files in the right folder. If there are any Vanilla textures that should have been replaced, they will cause something like this. Get back to me if its still not working.
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Reply #196 March 5, 2008 3:26:24 PM
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I figured this for a few reasons. Where resources are short, wars will ensue. .


While logical in one sense, not always true, as it happens.

The biggest wars are often over territories with lots of resources - it's called the curse of resources, (right now, for example, the curse of oil). If resources are there, everyone wants them, so battles, exploitation ensue; poverty often follows. Not always the case, there are many factors, but the Middle East is largely a target because of oil...

Now, this does assume a scarcity overall, but given humanity's unlimited desire for expansion, there is always likely to be a scarcity of some form. I assume that in a galactic society, where fast travel across large distances is possible, people will fight hardest and longest for resource-rich planets, and attempt to control them - especially where those resources only come from certain places.



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Reply #197 March 5, 2008 3:34:43 PM
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Marko, not to drag this completely off-topic, but your oil example holds with Uzii's line of reasoning. The battles are fought over it because there simply isn't enough of it, to put it at an absurdly over-simplified level.
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Reply #198 March 5, 2008 4:03:53 PM
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I imagine you could use an extension of that reasoning to explain the double Slaves bonus I have on a desert world...War -> More war -> Someone won and enslaved the rest -> free planet developments for me.
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Reply #199 March 5, 2008 5:02:44 PM
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I imagine you could use an extension of that reasoning to explain the double Slaves bonus I have on a desert world...War -> More war -> Someone won and enslaved the rest -> free planet developments for me.


Lol, thats a nice way to think of it.

I hate to drag this out more, you(Marko) are correct, but you are also looking at this from the other side that I am. The war for the Middle East (for simplicities sake is over Oil) is raging because the Oil reserves on this planet are running out. If Oil was in abundance then it wouldn't have started (We'll keep this simple, I don't want a debate over its cause, for this case its Oil). The war started in that particular area because there is supply there, and shortages elsewhere.

Which brings me back on the the Desert world, Water, Food, and general supplies will be short everywhere. There will be two possible areas that will have plenty, one being the Space Ports, and the other being oasis's. The Terran worlds will still have these areas, but because of the abundance of resources elsewhere, are not as valuable to the population.

I'd also like a bit of input too. Shall I still keep some bonuses doubled or tripled up so you may end up with more then one of the same type, or just have one of each?
Since there is no other way (that I know of) to 'weight' one or more of the bonuses, I've had to put more of the same in so others are rarer, namely the bad ones, like A Deadly Secret.

Feedback is welcome, and thank you all for the above comments too.
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Reply #200 March 5, 2008 6:51:55 PM
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Ironically the only planetary bonus ive gotten in 12 games of a huge random map are either crystal production +200%
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Planetary shield.

im not including galactic trade center as its on every(i think) urban planet.

so in my case i suppose i should just increase the chance eh?


I also have a new idea for a planet!!
-Swamp world like Dagobah from star wars, many small lakes surrounded by muddy brown/nasty green land masses!

who wouldnt want to live there..?

Also make a new planetary bonus to go along with it with a 1% chance.
-Yoda!! increased everything or automatic win. yer choice haha.


OR-Savannah planet, yellow fields. sorta like Africa in some ways i guess.
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