I'm not particularly interested in "pleasing the other side". I haven't even looked at the patch notes for 1.02 because like I said in another thread, maybe I got a different game than you guys did but if I:

1. Cap asteroid belt mining stations as soon as possible
2. Sell the massive mineral surplus to get cash to bribe the pirates with
2. Max out the tactical slots on all my border worlds

Then I never see these problems on a medium AI. Yes, I see strike groups consisting of nothing more than 12-14 Cleansers/Siege Frigates/Those weird Vasari beam frigates but they usually withdraw after losing half their group to bomber strafing. In fact, I'm actually thankful the AI seems to put a premium on minimizing losses and retreating because I'm pretty sure that if he suicide-ran it like I'm sure a human player did I'd lose the asteroid and have to recolonize it.

And I am a guy who couldn't play GalCiv 2 without abusing the cheat codes. Not a single goddamn game.

I support an increase (perhaps doubling) of the phase inhibitor's jump penalty. That's it. The other ideas are backwards, draconian concepts that should have died with Conquest: Frontier Wars.

I think people complaining about AI is a different discussion (and I agree, it isn't a problem). I think the complaint here is what a human can do to you.

Either way, it seems ridiculous to me too that phase inhibitors really don't seem to do much. What was the reason phase inhibitors were nerfed down from the beta? Why don't phase inhibitors stop people from phasing, forcing them to take out the phase inhibitor? Isn't the point to be able to create strategic choke points and hard points which you can defend?

The ships should just not be able to phase unless they have enough antimatter to do so. Cap ships would be hard to retreat if not watched carefully and if their abilities were on auto. It would also make you have to choose if they retreat or use an ability and stick it out. Having required antimatter and a PJI should slow things down. Or perhaps having a cooldown timer on phasing could do the trick.

I like the system actually. Sure it could use some fixes but with that kinda tech, that's the kind of strategies youd expect to see. I'm starting to have some battlestar galactica flashbacks with all the damned jumping though.

Well, while it's not a major problem, it does provide a healthy doze of annoyance.

These tag games are pretty popular early in game and even in late game it's still very popular. Like just a while ago this happen in my game. A group of AI frigate jump to my planet which is defensed by two cap ships and lots of turrets/hangars. They turned tail and jump out immediately. Since the two cap ships were parking right at the edge of the gravity well I decided to hot pursuit that fleet. Well, the moment my cap ships finish their jump, that fleet already turned around and jumped back to my planet. So I jumped back with them, which again, they jumped out immediately, in which I follow again, and ofcourse they jumped back to my planet right away. By this time I was really pissed so I decided "I'll just nuke that planet of yours!!". Surprising though, my statis defense was enough to scare them off so even without my 2 capitals ships jump back with them, the fleet still turn around and jump back to their planet (which is where my two caps ship are), and two cap ships were too much for them so they jump back to my planet, so on so forth.

That loop continues for quite a few times, it looks funny at first but it doesn't take long for me to think it's kinda stupid. And this is just a typical example of a regular show.



I think the problem here is there are not enough restriction and jumping is more or less a do as you please kind of things. Since Beta 2 it's decided the PJI no longer permanent locked out jumping, I didn't exactly agree with the decision but I'm ok with it (I think the main reason is to compliment the AI as right now they don't seem to scout ahead). But still, there should be some restriction as a punishment of some sort for fleets that making a blind jump, not the "oh boy, wrong place, ciao!". Although the jumping fleet does not get totally locked out their chance of survival, there should be a window of opportunity to attack them.


This is a problem, and depend on the type of game you play it can get quite serious. People who have been saying you can use stuffs like the Ion cannon on the TEC's Akkan to disable Capships and that's the only thing that's matter. You're right, but you probably haven't play a large game with lots of players yet. The thing is while you can slow down and destroy a Cap Ship or two, those run away frigate in time will just stack up on the other side (as right now if those frigate want to run, there aren't much chance to stop them). What I'm getting at is a death lock situation, the AI can not tackle your defense and will keep running away, and in time, the force on the other side can stack up to something like 300 hundred frigates. Happenned to me, and trust me, with a whole fleet of Cap ship at level 7-10 and about 150 worth units of Kodiak, that stack of Frigate was not a pretty sight.





I think a possible solution can be something that restrict the never ending sequence of jumping. Why not making phase jump an actual ability that require its own cooling time and Anti-matter requirement. Jumping already consume anti-matter, making this as requirement will at least put a limit on these jump sequence. If the AI decides to play tag, this will at least limit how many time they can afford to be tagged. (With the exception of Scout Frigate maybe).

Some adjustments are needed. Here is the Pink Space Ponies solution!

1. PJI's need to be cumulative and we need to know how long the delay is.

2. The difficulty with anti mater should be fixed so that if you do not have enough you can't jump!

Perhaps the PJI should be changed into an antimatter eater, lowering the rejuvenation of antimatter after sapping a set amount from the incoming ships.. as an example, all incoming hostiles lose 100 antimatter and the rejuvenation rate is lowered to 50% of that ships capability. This would give us definitive intelligence as to how long we can delay a ship from jumping and plan accordingly. If it is fixed so that ships without enough antimatter can't jump then it opens up additional tactics [like nailing them in the next grav well even if they get out] and improves overall game play without causing a firewall defense that they can't ever get out of or work around..

100% agree with manshooter. The game is fine as is, but these changes would make it more fun and interesting. "Oh shit" moments tend to be some of the best moments.

Manshooter you hit it dead on, I actually accidentally made another thread about this and didn't see this one.

An interdictor vessel is a must have with the way the AI plays. That or the AI needs to grow a pair of balls.

This game is so great, I love it, and if that got fixed so I could have my massive armada trap their fleet and force them to fight to the death... awesome. That's all I want that I haven't gotten to see yet since buying this game; a massive confrontation of two fleets, where the outcome could more or less decide the course of the game.