That's a bit cruel, supreme commander was a decent game and they did release a ton of patches I mean they can't live up to what every fan wants it's impossible.

Though let's avoid discussing that over and over (=

same here... wish there was a way to disable the scroll of the window, now that we have the alert notification boxes working on the UI.

1. I agree, or at least let us set a default " return to this spot after building" way point.

2. I have a feeling it will be fine, time shall tell...

3. I wouldn't mind a tow option offered by the construction frigate. Then again if you build them where they are needed to start with, there is no need to move them.

4. Almost all the ships do have shields. No need for a shield ship IMHO.

i would like to see a band box target instead of having to click on the main targetship itself just so you have to attack that target. not like hw bandbox where you have ranged ships firing the closest target available nearby to auto engage target thats been banboxed.

Here is my take on Gameplay issues so far.

1. Planetary shields should be part of the unseen planetary infrastructure (on the planet). Their use should be tied into Civic Development upgrades. Access should be based on research and planet type. For example, Asteroids could only get shield upgrade level 1, standard planets could only get access to shield upgrade level 2, and only Capital worlds could get access to shield upgrade level 3 (requires a massive fleet to take down).

Hmmm, maybe Asteroids 0 shields, regular planets lvl 1 shields and capital worlds lvl 2 shields might make more sense? Still, I like the idea of a capital world being tougher to take out than a standard one.

2. Logistical Slots should be combined with Tactical Slots. Both Logistical and Tactical structures are in orbit and both would have similar type support requirements, why wouldn't they share the same orbital position slots?

This would also alleviate the complaints that there aren't enough Logistical slots.

3. Well, I've ranted in the past about wanting open connection maps (or maps where only the stars are connected by phase lanes and the systems are contained in a single gravity well). But the Beta 2 is more entertaining since they've increased the number of phase lane connections within systems. Good job! Still, don't let me discourage the Devs from including the ability to mod in custom maps.

4. Some people are complaining about the Cruisers, but I happen to like them. Right now, the Frigates cover the Corvette/Frigate class range. The Cruisers cover the Destroyer/Light Cruiser class range. The Capital Ships cover the Cruiser/Battle Cruiser/Battleship class range.

Still, from what I've read on the forums so far, people seem to not like the simplified Frigate/Cruiser/Capital Ship classes. Maybe Ironclad should consider reclassifying the ships more accurately within the Corvette/Frigate/Destroyer/Light Cruiser/Cruiser/Battle Cruiser/Battleship classes. If it makes many gamers happy and doesn't matter to the rest, why not?

Of course, the ships also still need ability and cost balance, but that is for another beta.

5. Retreating ships should still be allowed to shoot.

6. Fighters and Flak Frigates should be STRONGLY encouraged to attack strike craft...especially since they are nearly useless against anything else. Right now, I don't even build fighters.

7. Ship speeds (and turn rates) need to be lowered a bit.

8. Gravity wells need to be increased in size for non-asteroid planets and even more so for stars.

9. I like the idea of Colony Frigates being used up when colonizing a planet. This way, you need a new Colony Frigate for each new planet.

Also, to minimize Colony Rush tactics, when the Colony Frigate attempts to colonize a planet, the process should take 20 seconds or so. Also, the Colonization ship should lower shields and reduce its hit points during the 20 seconds it takes to disassemble itself prior to planetary decent. This way, pirates and other opponents will stand a better chance at stopping rushed colonizing.

10. Finally, weapon effects still need a lot of work. As it is, a lot of weapon fire doesn't visually impact the targeted ships. The shots just stop short. It also seems like weapon fire is 100% accurate. Doesn't weapon fire miss sometimes?

Since one of the cap ship modifies other ships to hit % you'd think they should miss, but I don't see it.

It would be nice if each weapon salvo caused impacts on ships, as opposed to now where only the first salvo makes an impact and the the rest of the shots just disappear.

Scorch marks from bombing!

I haven't read this entire topic, but I just got this game today. When opening up the research panel, I was stumped for awhile. I was confused on what to get; perhaps putting a special border around certain research types would be easier for new people?
A black border for research that enables ships, no border for research that increases ship power, ect.
It would help people like me have an easier time.


Fighters (from the carrier) go through planets. Tested on several homeworld planets.

Pirates go after colonizing ships. Completely ignoring your battle ships.

There should be more options for the solor system. Such as:
-Number of planets assigned to each star
-Number of asteroids per planet
-Pirate Amount Per Planet


I haven't played this game too much, but pirates always seem to be near empty-planets. The pirates should try to ambush you, such as warping in from a random area of space.

Carrier Bombers are pretty powerful.

Like alot of the complaints on the first page; more crystal D: But in some ways I do like not having alot of crystal, it makes it wanted more. Players are willing to give more for it, so personnely I would want it to stay.

Ok
I just got done playing the very first tutorial
and here is my .02

First impression: I love it!!! This game could break the sort of space opera game that defines a brand new genre

That said my only real argument/slash problem is the ZOOM feature, in such an expansive empire game, with potential battles going on in multiple areas, etc. A strong intuitive zoom could make or break the game.

On the plus side, you've got the STRONG part down, going in and out with the mouse wheel was easy.

On the intuitive: I would really like to see you copy the ZOOM capability featured in Gas Powered Games Supreme Commander It is quite simply, the best, most intuitive zoom feature ever installed on a RTS game. SupCom is a HUGE game, giant battlefields etc, and I swear, moving around the map is SO EASY, and makes managing giant armies in various areas so fluid and smooth, that this game, with its similar sprawl DEMANDS a similar type of zoom. Let me explain what it does. When you scroll out, you can point the mouse at any area and when you flick the mouse wheel to zoom in, IT GOES TO where the cursor is pointing! Not back to where you zoomed out from. It does not require any fancy fingerwork with the arrow keys to zip around and get the camera locked in on the action.

LET me reiterate, cause this is key: when mags like PC Gamer et al get their hands this masterpiece, if it comes with a SupCom-style scroll and zoom they will be orgasmic (as will I)....if not be prepared for a comment along the lines of: the only negative about the game is the, at times, distracting camera work, which can be fidgety in the heat of battle.

interesting blair, I'm almost a complete mouse-nut. for me RTSs are a relaxing sort of game. ideas are processed, but not as quickly as in FPSs or in RPG games. as a result I usually do either the lean-way-back or the head-on-hand position, neither one is great for keyboards . thats why the zoom feature is an absolute must for me   

OK
I take my first post on the camera.

I toyed around with it just now...
Holy cow, just like I wanted, having a zoom that scrolls to the cursor is just a marvelous tool in a game like this, especially after getting used to such a game mechanic with Supreme Commander.

Thanks Blair....with my camera fears settled, I swear I have yet to find a single flaw in this game!!

hey iv just noticed while playing the game when u have it where u zoom in to the pointer you cant follow ships u know when u click on them while hold shift u know the 1 where u follow umm well it dont work when u have it to zoom to pointer setting

I agree completely. In space (or elsewhere for that matter) you are lucky to stop the damage from destroying the ship completely. Repairing them to full status is just not good.