the reason nobody has died because of a flare is because its impossible for them to reach out this far. what I meant by my little cliche is that a flare causes the CME, but its not the flare that causes the actual radiation damage.

it didnt eh?
how come they think so, as do them, these and this little place
do you want to, say, rewrite your statement?
CMEs are what do damage, they are what accompany flares and actually cause the damage.

they last for ages, but like I said, they are not quantum mechanically stable, they are stable much like the way unexploded TNT is safe. its not, but circumstances keep it stable. it would never ever work on a spaceship, and to add to that your spaceship would be impossible to move. oh, and it would also create a massive gravitational field that would cause it to collapse, and if that didnt happen you would be smeared against the inside of your vessel
just thought I'd give you a small warning.

they dont need to be repulsive to fall apart, the protons in and of themselves provide part of the adhesive property. thats why we dont have C-2578396263901. that many neutrons would blow the atom apart

have you seriously NEVER heard of the belt of stability??? thats an elementary concept.

I've refered to it several times, and none of those have anything to do with what we're talking about. so just make the assumption.

thats not biological aging, biological aging is the process of necrosis believed to be caused by several different effects to the cells of the body. and to quote your favorite wiki

4/9 thoeries have to do with causes linked to radiation and the accumulation of errors. since it is currently theorized that at least a few of these are key factors in the aging process, you can see why the degenerative effect of radiation exposure in space could be called "space aging"

its not a veritable problem, its an issue. by putting rocks on the ship you would at least double its mass, the obvious result being that it requires at least twice as much fuel, more fuel means more mass and consequently more fuel is then required. your 'adding a few rocks' is both innefficient and would cost the ship a LOT of time in its journey. its not a good engineering idea, not in the least.
a problem would be the rocks banging against the side of the ship, the issue would be the tripling or quadrupling of the cost of that space ship and increasing its transit time massively. thats not an acceptable trade off.

(censored for the sake of the conversation) dont attack my language because it doesnt fit precisely.

our bodies have been cut from the evolution stone to exist in a gravitational environment. unless you SERIOUSLY believe that ID is a serious academic theory, and that god (or some other diety/designer if you wish) made us to go into space, you should accept that our bodies have always required certain elements to their survival, food is a big one. oxygen another. gravity isnt exactly a pillar of survival, but the truth is in the bag as to its effects on our bodies
we do not "adapt" in space, losing bone mass and muscle strength and growing fat are not ways that our body works to get used to its new home. in saying this I think you're the one claiming that our DNA is an intelligent existance, that it can handle completely unnatural occurences with an almost divine guidance towards what is nescessary.

this isnt buisness, you cannot just 'plan' and have the rocks mysteriously lose their mass so that travel would go off without a hitch. saying this is unrealistic and quite laughable. the only reason one would use rocks as a shielding material is if they are a complete idiot who doesnt like to plan ahead.

have you seen what chemo does to cancer patients? think of this, only slightly lestened, extended over all spectrums of the electromagnetic spectrum and having it done CONSISTANTLY (not in bursts) for the rest of your life.
do you understand the point now? or is it still that much of a mystery to you.

good question. there are times when your words just do not fit. I may not be following language in its 'perfect' form, but at least I'm coherent consistantly.

Sudbury Neutrino Observatory. although, thing is they detect neutrinos. and its deuterium they use.
if you're talking of other water-based detection shemes, those are half a decade old. the detection of a proton is a very, very old thing, I am almost insulted that you think that. almost.

you are COMPLETELY missing the point, you can detect a photon but you must do it
I N D I R E C T L Y. the photon does not jump out and yell "hello!!!! ITS ME A F***ING PHOTON!!!"
if we are to detect a graviton, it to would need to be done indirectly. we can tell there is gravity by experiments, however in order to verify that there is a real graviton we would need proof in more than just "look, its sucking me in. it must exist!". we need hard, empiracle evidence. stuff not provided by water, or your incessant mumbojumbo. if the graviton was actually found, trust me, I would know about it. hell, even in our throw-science-down-the-toilet society, such a break would be news.

all they have are theoretics, which trust me, I love! but its not proof in the least, proof requires experiments, decayed particles that we have a way to detect. without it we are incapable of quantifying how many such 'gravitons' exist, and theres still sufficient theoretics supporting the idea that gravitons dont exist, and are mearly the interaction of space time with the fabric of particles. even other theories say that gravity is non existant, merely a mathematic artifact of the interaction of particles on a lower dimension.

see, this is where you're wrong. lets make another, simpler example;
sound. sound is the upper level perception of vibrations transmitted from the inner cochlea, however sound is not vibrations in the air, rather their sensation.
pain may be detected in MRIs, but what you see is the body transmitting pain. pain is the coherence of several different messages coming together in the body to produce a sensation (nobody knows how). seeing the brain go all nice faux colors doesnt mean you 'see pain'.

just another example of indirect detection.

contrast does not exist. it is a concept developed through ordering the brain percieves. shadow and light have nothing to do with one another, contrast is something WE as HUMANS and HIGHER LEVEL THINKERS create out of our own nescessity to order.

see, I knew you would get confused. just drop it, its hard to explain in type.

what?
where did you even MENTION that before. do tell, this is the first post where I've seen you use either "bog" or "bitek". no surprise that I couldnt know what the hell you're talking about when you havent said it yet.

oh, this piece of... um...
moving on; how was I supposed to know it was a joke? I thought you were just speaking in utter jibberish... again.

...
so is it supposed to mean pod or god, because neither are particularly amusing...

I'm sincerely concerned for your sanity.

Just look at that information, I feel like I am back at school, only with supper boring teachers... *shuders* ... and no cool people to talk to...

So many big words I bet both of you dont know the compelete meaning of, without looking it up again.

Oh, and Emperor, can you please work on your grammar skills. I have seen better sentances from a monkey.

Just to clarify, Which Emperor are you talking about Emperor?-sarcasm end

Grant they aren't prefect, pretty or rather poetry in Ninja case. They just have to convey either idea or information. Have you ever heard "No what we have here is a fail to communication".

Eh... it could be better, but at least it doesnt give me a headache and a want to open up Word and correct the mistakes.



Ever heard of a special littel friend I like to call the comma?
Its seems you have, well let me give you a little advice. The comma does not like to be missused, it just doesnt. If it is missused than it sends out small telepathic messages to others that portray the writer as a grammatical imbecile.

And me being the Grammatical Communist Anti-Nazi that I am, I cant let that happen.



I think someone should call Sarcasm, it looks like he has gotten a competitor.

tsk tsk, I said square inch.

As for losing, I was just "cramming for test". Didn't have time to go all Heinlein, Peter Hamilton and Asimov here.(They are all Sci-Fi writers who either deal with fiction but plausible future technology in one form or another)

In the Wikipedia: Solar Flare it didn't specific what kind of biological damage can result from being hit by Solar Flare because we never had it happen before. Thus are you willing to stake your life over it?

Are you saying Death Moon and a "jungle" Moon in essentially the same thing? That may make sense to you however for me that like saying orange should be eat like a ribcage meat.

Look up my sentence did you see the word empirical evidence? No I didn't use the word "facts" if you look closer you wouldn't miss "assume". I don't have to assume that you already know the definition.

I already mention that ZPM was a fiction with "assuming that you already know that it's fiction indirectly" in the previous sentence.

Wikipedia: Schwarzschild Radius "a general acceptance of the possibility of a black hole did not occur until after World War II." I am not dismissing anything, because I was describe people belief of the black hole "before WWII". It is somewhat insulting that you think people pre-victoria understood and believe in black hole.

I didn't knew any physicist could be a hot smoking Italian Bachelor. -End Sarcasm
Ok let me clear up your confuse in this matter for once for all. Definition Weight: Physics. the force that gravitation exerts upon a body, equal to the mass of the body times the local acceleration of gravity: commonly taken, in a region of constant gravitational acceleration, as a measure of mass.
Definition Mass: Physics. the quantity of matter as determined from its weight or from Newton's second law of motion.
Definition Relativistic Mass: –noun Physics.
the mass of a body in motion relative to the observer: it is equal to the rest mass multiplied by a factor that is greater than 1 and that increases as the magnitude of the velocity increases.
Sorry but the official dictionary.com say, You are using relativistic mass as mass when I see mass as Weight/Mass both because they are DIRECTLY relative. Sorry if you thought weight was relativistic mass.

I never said it had to be HIGH pressure, and beside we already have high pressure cooker better know as combustion and gas turbine. But that beside the point which is One mole of neutronium are easily held together while trillion of trillion on other hand has higher pressure requirement. I think that where you lost me in term of measurable because mole if you remember is a "conservative" estimate of 6.022x10 to the 23 power(that is 23 zero after the digit 6). Clearly 2 or 3 mole of this stuff is easily usable and since you only need few gram per sq inch which isn't a very high demanding requirement compare to what you are describing for trillion of trillion mole.

I was saying that it isn't easy to form multi-carbon bond back then. Neutronium is difficult, and how easy it will be in the future is anybody guess. I wasn't compare nuclear physic and chemical here.

Wikipedia Theory:In science, a theory is a mathematical description, a logical explanation, a verified hypothesis, or a proven model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise falsified through empirical observation.

In other word not proved directly is for most time enough to predicate certain possible of the future however whichever come true is anybody guess.

The key word is elementary that has my stomach all twist up at the moment so proceed to this wikipedia WWW Link and point out which one you are using.

Did you even brother to read those articles: Free neutron, Dineutron Tetraneutron? Clearly you didn't and didn't get me start on this phrase " * There is no universally agreed-upon definition for the term "neutronium".
* There is considerable uncertainty over the composition of the material in the cores of neutron stars (it could be neutron-degenerate matter, strange matter, quark matter, or a variant or combination of the above).
". Notice the "universally agreed-upon" which make it not completely fiction at all. Just also look up neutron-degenerate matter and 2 other article of REAL neutron.

If just 3 can be stable then they can be "arrangement up" to not be together on the picometer scale.

"If a mole of pig can fly then I will be a slave of your."-End Sarcasm
I was calculating weight of pure neutron in mole not considering other factors. I was converting weight(of .0014 which is different between proton and neutron weight then add one afterward to make up for the "missing" reference mass which is the part that was subtracted) from pm to m using mole NOT one vs one.

I never said we have to "see it" for it to be working and beside I guess you haven't heard that scientist already are arranging atom into characters of the china language and I will try find proof or upload picture from my book(by next post I don't have time to stroke your ego you should know that by now ).

I am not dismissing the theory rather NOT taking the time to read them. Where did I said I would dismiss them?

I count seven idea. I wonder where the other "B" come from oh wait THAT the bad luck number gasp everyone RUN. He is the killer!-End Sarcasm

Two idea as in that you can describe in one sentence by itself.

I will try to over look the part where you used insulting English. And get to the point here which is that intelligent design was popular because it was the only "theory" back then. As for today, I am saying it is everybody choice to follow it or not. Whatever they choice has no consequence to me which was my point.

Have you even tired flying that bag of rock compare to the weight of people?-End Sarcasm
The point is you seem to show a lack of knowledge of how U-2 was quickly replaced.(You may object to this but it is relative in the sense that it was planned year before U-2 was even flown) In other word before the airplane leave the hanger and design board, They already planned an airplane that would obsoletes it. Be careful because if you try to insult skunkwork you also insult NASA and DARPA and bog know who else they work with both past/present.

Did you even brother to read that part about x-ray being stronger and thus harder than the rest of "s***".

My point was we can deal with steady (body can repair DNA don't ask me how because that is whole another cap of worm)better than burst in form of Hiroshima-style bomb.

Guess you haven't heard of the idea of code words. Enough said.

Proof of your bad grammar? Hence the bad grammar because you didn't explain whose English that is bad. That all proof I need to say "You, Sir are a monkey".

I never said neutrino was a neutron because I can spell both and understand both. BTW I never spoke anything about physic of neutrino afaik. The experimental ZNO did result in detecting neutrino AND came to a conclude that neutrino do indeed has mass that is little(smaller than anything according to www.pbs.org:ZNO).

Who said sound was Electric Magnetic(don't use abridge for EM other than EM please)? I said a cochlear implant that CONVERT sound into electric signal which isn't EM. Why do you think I SAID look it up gee. I said the signal CAUSING pain is electric signal not pain. Sound IS vibration in the air. For proof look up Longitudinal Wave under Wikipedia and they have this neat animation picture of sound as Longitudinal Wave should explain itself.

Whose witty? Me or you? If you then show proof of your "witty".-End Sarcasm

I do listen to empirical evidence of evolution of man from monkey by reading what you are saying Ninja. You bring up my sanity as empirical evidence therefore bring up your sanity would eventually happen. I like the proverb "Don't throw an arrow that can be turn against you".

As for the reason behind delay was "cramming time for test". Don't ask for further detail cause I will just "roll eyes".

I agree Mighty Mongoose on relative to the square inch convert because you certainly would to have about trillions of square inch.(yes it is OVER trillion because I did the math) That would imply you have a "Fat Greek" body don't you?

Let me do bit of calculation here. Average height of a human is six ft and about one ft six inch wide. As for length let assume about one feet. So the total volume here won't be accurate for a real body however it will be somewhat over estimate. Because I am calculating a box which surface area come to (72*18*2+72*12*2+18*12*2=)4752 sq inch. Just remember this is actually bigger than the body. 50,000,000,000,000/4752=10,521,885,520 Which come nowhere near your 30,000 because you are missing about hundred thousand digit here. Wow a human that has dimension of hundred thousand smaller might have the accurate value meanwhile we have 1.052*10 per sq inch. Next time don't even use math in your head.

As for the physical I wasn't focusing on speed and etc... Because that is whole another can of Pandora's post.

I didn't said you said it. But rather implying it from how you said it.

That post I was too tired to format the source for each lines.

Again you imply it.

Was your comment supposed to sound sarcasm? Am I missing something? BTW My definition of weight/mass hasn't changed. From what I read you used mass which is not relativistic mass also known as inertia. Whenever I used inertia it is just inertia which has no connection with mass. I don't understand why you keep thinking that.

Where did crystal come in? Crystal isn't alway make of carbon FYI. I was talking about the kind of carbon that is used to form plastic. They had no plastic "pre-wwII". Crystal has been available to even the cavaman before the first community formed.

We don't even know if our sun has/hasn't neutronium. You are speculation about information about material science that we as scientist community have little/no information on. Neutron mass is measure of how much it is weight which is "constant" number which has no connection to stat of matter that has degenerate pressure which is the formal name. That like saying hydrogen should be called protonium from now on because it hold only proton. I will say degenerate matter from now on just to move on.

Not to be a nitpick on you but here goes. Scientist by definition is someone who use scientific method to do research. By that is basically anyone granted. But most true scientist has a diploma in a field that they do work in. I don't consider myself a scientist in an field however I am working on diploma name Computer Science which require me to take 4 course in chemistry I and II, Calculus I and II. Which isn't the full list but there is no course for scientist. Which come to my point anyone having a diploma with extensive knowledge of chemistry and math/calculus. Which make me a scientist because I can work the scientist method. I maybe won't become a researcher anytime soon doesn't meant I can't do research. I also should notice here that there is no different between engineers and scientist. I can be basically either because Computer Science is an engineer degree. (Source:Wikipedia-Scientist)

I assume by AMU you meant them flathead AMU Link-End Sarcasm

Clearly you missed my joke that while you are using elementary. I was poking joke because I just feel like a here was proper. Apparently you missed the comedy train to comedy universe.

How can I overflow logic with one sentence?-End Sarcasm To the point again you seem to miss the point of me saying "I treat them all as theory until proved otherwise". I don't know how it can get any simpler than "innocent until proved otherwise".

If you notice that when I first mention neutronium-"degenerate matter", I said that sun has it. I never said it was "real matter" at all.

I didn't know engineer deal with random number. Gasp Someone call quantum buster right NOW!-End Sarcasm Engineer afiak don't deal with random number. They use scientific knowledge, creativity, and technology.(Source:Wikipedia-Engineer) I don't see how they use random anywhere/anywhat/anywho/anyit/anytime/anyhow/anyetc... Although I remember a fiction book dealing with computer's random number(random number still exist for people whereas for computer they don't). It is bit difficult to explain how computer deal with it because book don't explain it. But I know that it is unlikely you meant this specific book. (This book is "Number Of The Beast" by Robert Heinlein just for your curiously)

FYI DARPA doesn't deal with fiction technology. For example over last four decades has see the invent of technologies.(List of DARPA sponsored technology:Vela hotel, saturn(the rocket launch platform to orbit),M-16 rifle, Ground Surveillance Radar, ATAMCIS, Arpanet, JSTARS, Stealth Fighter, Sea Shadow(an boat that use stealth think "James Bond:Tomorrow Never Dies-Stealth boat yes it was real"), GPS, Taurus Launch Vehicles, Uncooled IR, BAT, Predator, Global Hawk, JSF engine, MEMS, Mobile Robot, J-UCAS, Future unknown Discovery yet to be make. Don't make me explain how each technology is real enough on it own to make your head hurt. Source:DARPA Official report)

Look for my "hundred thousand" above comment.

"Wonder where he get his info"-enough said.

My point about repairing DNA is that we don't know the real limit humans body can take not that they can ignore DNA damage.

I didn't mean proton. Where you get that? I never confuse proton with neutron thus I only can assume it is you putting words in my mouth again.

Was tired didn't see you said that. If you notice the posting it was middle of the night assume you adjust from your time zone to me(Texas time zone not counting El Paso because they are one hour behind the rest of state).

You are not following my advice either from what I can see. You are pick up everything that I didn't throw/said thus your statement mean nothing to me.

I never said our body are "ready" for zero-gravity. You assume our body has a mind of it again. Stop assuming an altitude of assign intelligence/sentient to things that don't have any amount of it. I see our body as naturally inhabiting one gravity and thus can adjust for lower/higher. We can already remedy zero-gravity by Centrifugal Gravity(rotating section) up to fraction below one. Darwinian Logic stat that thing do change doesn't meant I assume the logic to what I said. What I am saying is "body/DNA" can change/adjust to space condition but doesn't necessary meant for good or bad. How you miss that part again and repeatedly, escape my logic at this time. Thus you are a uncomputable error and must be convert to bitek waste.

As for bitek, simplest way to explain is BI(ological)TEK(chnology with ch convert to k because they sound same). See why it is spell that way now? Apparently from DARPA website link Bitek may be closer to reality than before. Of course I knew that but just included for extra interest. BTW the only non-fiction nuclear weapon I have heard of that isn't used is the following:Artillery Shell, mines, Blue Peacock(don't ask), depth charges, torpedoes, mortar, Nike Hercules, anti-ballistic missile, suitcase bomb, and Air-Genie two. But none hand grenades which isn't anywhere on list.

he is hopeless...

and wtf is all this...
speaking to himself again. I think.

I guess you both miss the "yous" I put in the sentences. I don't have to be hopeless but I can be hopeless and full of hope.

"As for physical..." Talking about ion storm.

"I didn't said you..." Referring to one of your post earlier. Second one is another different post. If you can't figure out ones then I will try point out which post.

Just saying why I didn't format that post. Enough said.

I concur TGE that he is suffering from a minor form of Schizotypal Personality Disorder. I love that part about ME PECULIAR. (look up the link to see the joke)

That the first I heard of the "artful" type of English. Sigh, I wasn't speaking to TGE when I said you. Didn't you read that part where I am cramming in for final at college? At least I am not delusion about benefit we get from the government Mr Wrong. One reason I think you are Schizotypal because one time in another forum you went all splitter. Don't meant I am a psychologist in disguise. If you read more careful you will notice that I was joking that you "act" like you had Schizotypal but didn't meant you had it. You didn't capital anythings in your paragraph which make it difficult if not impossible to tell when a sentence end. Ironic, not capital anything make you sound more like 2nd grader than I will ever hope to attain.